I live in an Army town, and I know a lot of Rangers, current and former.This attitude is almost universal among those guys. I see a lot of "infidel" bumper stickers, too.This may come as a surprise to some of you guys, but soldiers are usually pretty ignorant, simple-minded guys. There are obviously exceptions, but grunts are, generally, not very smart. This goes all the way to the top-tier special forces guys as well, if any of you are familiar with the Chris Kyle/Jesse Ventura spat.A good portion, maybe even the majority, of the Army sees our involvement in the middle east as a holy war, a new crusade against islam. I've spoken to some vets, including my former scoutmaster, and they all had very disturbing things to say about muslims. The Army itself may try to present a face of multicultural secularism as a way to bring in recruits, but it is very much a christian-controlled institution, with all of the discrimination and favoritism that entails.
Yeah....being an atheist in the military is not great. Seems like things are slowly getting better tho. They're a few years behind the rest of the country.
Quote from: Keyu on November 28, 2014, 06:54:15 PMYeah....being an atheist in the military is not great. Seems like things are slowly getting better tho. They're a few years behind the rest of the country.Really? I figured it would be more supportive of the Atheistic view nowadays.
This is very familiar with "For the King/Queen and Country" but it's also because the clash between West, and East also involves a long, unending religious war.
Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.
Certainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.Quote from: XmasFox on December 01, 2014, 07:33:59 AMDifference is, Kings and Queens exist.
Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.
Quote from: Isara on December 01, 2014, 07:35:42 AMCertainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.Quote from: XmasFox on December 01, 2014, 07:33:59 AMDifference is, Kings and Queens exist.Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.
Heres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.
"We don't call them 'crusades' anymore. These days we call it...peacekeeping."
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.
Quote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen
Quote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen-Caring about one little word "God"
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:47:22 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen-Caring about one little word "God"The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.
Quote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:47:22 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen-Caring about one little word "God"The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.Oh but it is. If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.Its just a word. Get over it.
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:47:22 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen-Caring about one little word "God"The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.Oh but it is. If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.Its just a word. Get over it.No, it wouldn't - because the moronic mentality of the basic grunts for the military still exist. You know, the belief we're on a new Crusade to fight the evil Arab monkeys or whatever the think.
Quote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:57:26 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:55:34 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:53:16 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:47:22 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 12:18:41 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 01, 2014, 11:49:42 AMQuote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 09:16:17 AMHeres a solution.Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.A horrible idea, really.to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.> United States military> no impact on me, as a United States citizen-Caring about one little word "God"The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.Oh but it is. If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.Its just a word. Get over it.No, it wouldn't - because the moronic mentality of the basic grunts for the military still exist. You know, the belief we're on a new Crusade to fight the evil Arab monkeys or whatever the think.You're so tough insulting our great military.
Want my evidence? 99% of people don't give a fuck about the word "God".
If you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 01:05:23 PMWant my evidence? 99% of people don't give a fuck about the word "God". Source would be lovely.Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 01:05:23 PMIf you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".I only spend money from pre-1950.
Hypocritessssss
America is a a secular nation. No deity has any place in the military, school, government, or anywhere that isn't a private establishment or your home. End of story.
Quote from: PSU on December 01, 2014, 01:08:03 PMHypocritessssssSee, looks so much nicer without that silly religious line we had to add to be better than the Soviets.
US Army "On a mission for both God and country"
