US Army "On a mission for both God and country"

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I live in an Army town, and I know a lot of Rangers, current and former.

This attitude is almost universal among those guys.

I see a lot of "infidel" bumper stickers, too.

This may come as a surprise to some of you guys, but soldiers are usually pretty ignorant, simple-minded guys. There are obviously exceptions, but grunts are, generally, not very smart. This goes all the way to the top-tier special forces guys as well, if any of you are familiar with the Chris Kyle/Jesse Ventura spat.

A good portion, maybe even the majority, of the Army sees our involvement in the middle east as a holy war, a new crusade against islam. I've spoken to some vets, including my former scoutmaster, and they all had very disturbing things to say about muslims.

The Army itself may try to present a face of multicultural secularism as a way to bring in recruits, but it is very much a christian-controlled institution, with all of the discrimination and favoritism that entails.
My dad fought in Fallujah back when he was in Iraq, all I hear him and his vet friends is nothing but shit talk about Islam so you're not the only one who hears it. My grandfather also talks shit about Israel since he was in the CIA back during the Beruit shit happened he was in Palestine and always mentions how the Isralies treated the Palestinians like absolute shit and will always blame Israel for the unrest in the Middle East, it's always the little experiences everyone has that starts all this.
Last Edit: November 30, 2014, 09:05:28 PM by Brociopath


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Yeah....being an atheist in the military is not great.
Seems like things are slowly getting better tho. They're a few years behind the rest of the country.

Really? I figured it would be more supportive of the Atheistic view nowadays.


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Yeah....being an atheist in the military is not great.
Seems like things are slowly getting better tho. They're a few years behind the rest of the country.

Really? I figured it would be more supportive of the Atheistic view nowadays.
Nope. Lot of hardcore religious conservatives in the military. Like I said its improved, but its still got a ways to go.


 
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This is very familiar with "For the King/Queen and Country"  but it's also because the clash between West, and East also involves a long, unending religious war.


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This is very familiar with "For the King/Queen and Country"  but it's also because the clash between West, and East also involves a long, unending religious war.
Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.


 
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Certainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.

Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.


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Certainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.

Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.

Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.


 
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I don't see how piling up bodies of those who do not amuse you is any kind of logical or sensical solution besides settling the grounds for an even worse act to take place.

Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.


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Certainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.

Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.

Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.


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Certainly, but faith plays a similar role to belonging to someone who is higher, and more influential than you. Simpletons may get swayed into that kind of belief, especially under stress from an enemy who has a vastly different culture and beliefs.

Difference is, Kings and Queens exist.

Which is why, sometimes, I have very brief moments were I support some sort of mass human cull.
Stop channeling the Verby.


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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.


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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.
This would actually just perpetuate the problem.


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"We don't call them 'crusades' anymore. These days we call it...peacekeeping."
"What do the American dogs call it?"
"Uhhh, peacekeeping?"
"Yeah, peacekeeping! We'll go with that"


 
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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.


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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

You're right. A better solution is to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.


 
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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen



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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"
-Not caring about cutting military personnel wages....


 
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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"

The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.


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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"

The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.

Oh but it is.

If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.

Its just a word. Get over it.


 
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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"

The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.

Oh but it is.

If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.

Its just a word. Get over it.

No, it wouldn't - because the moronic mentality of the basic grunts for the military still exist. You know, the belief we're on a new Crusade to fight the evil Arab monkeys or whatever the think.


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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"

The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.

Oh but it is.

If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.

Its just a word. Get over it.

No, it wouldn't - because the moronic mentality of the basic grunts for the military still exist. You know, the belief we're on a new Crusade to fight the evil Arab monkeys or whatever the think.

You're so tough insulting our great military.


 
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Heres a solution.

Don't sign up for the army then. Boycott it.

A horrible idea, really.

to bitch about it when it has no impact on you.

> United States military
> no impact on me, as a United States citizen

-Caring about one little word "God"

The fact that you think it's simply over one word, and one word only, is laughable.

Oh but it is.

If the word "Family" or "Citizens" replaced God you'd be fine.

Its just a word. Get over it.

No, it wouldn't - because the moronic mentality of the basic grunts for the military still exist. You know, the belief we're on a new Crusade to fight the evil Arab monkeys or whatever the think.

You're so tough insulting our great military.

Not insulting

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I live in an Army town, and I know a lot of Rangers, current and former.

This attitude is almost universal among those guys.

I see a lot of "infidel" bumper stickers, too.

This may come as a surprise to some of you guys, but soldiers are usually pretty ignorant, simple-minded guys. There are obviously exceptions, but grunts are, generally, not very smart. This goes all the way to the top-tier special forces guys as well, if any of you are familiar with the Chris Kyle/Jesse Ventura spat.

A good portion, maybe even the majority, of the Army sees our involvement in the middle east as a holy war, a new crusade against islam. I've spoken to some vets, including my former scoutmaster, and they all had very disturbing things to say about muslims.

The Army itself may try to present a face of multicultural secularism as a way to bring in recruits, but it is very much a christian-controlled institution, with all of the discrimination and favoritism that entails.

Just stating the truth.


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Wait so my Anecdotal evidence is always shitty but this time its okay to use Anecdotal evidence for YOUR point? FOH

Want my evidence? 99% of people don't give a fuck about the word "God".

If you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".


 
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Want my evidence? 99% of people don't give a fuck about the word "God".

Source would be lovely.

If you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".

I only spend money from pre-1950.


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Want my evidence? 99% of people don't give a fuck about the word "God".

Source would be lovely.

If you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".

I only spend money from pre-1950.

Hypocritessssss


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
If you or Max have ever spent a dollar bill then you both are hypocrites. "In God we Trust".
lol


 
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Hypocritessssss



See, looks so much nicer without that silly religious line we had to add to be better than the Soviets.


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America is a a secular nation. No deity has any place in the military, school, government, or anywhere that isn't a private establishment or your home.

End of story.

Apparently thats not the case.


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See, looks so much nicer without that silly religious line we had to add to be better than the Soviets.

Oh yeah, so much better.

I mean its not completely the same or anything.