UN Reviewing Bombing of Refugee Center in Gaza

 
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JABALIYA, Gaza Strip ? An examination of an Israeli barrage that put a line of at least 10 shells through a United Nations school sheltering displaced Palestinians here last week suggests that Israeli troops paid little heed to warnings to safeguard such sites and may have unleashed weapons inappropriate for urban areas despite rising alarm over civilian deaths.

Inspection of the damage, a preliminary United Nations review that collected 30 pieces of shrapnel, and interviews with two dozen witnesses indicate that the predawn strikes on Wednesday, July 30, that killed 21 people at the school, in the crowded Jabaliya refugee camp, were likely to have come from heavy artillery not designed for precision use.

Israeli officials have argued throughout their 27-day air-and-ground campaign against Hamas, the militant group that dominates Gaza, that it is the enemy?s insistence on operating near shelters and other humanitarian sites that endangers civilians. But in the Jabaliya case, they provided no evidence of such activity and no explanation for the strike beyond saying that Palestinian militants were firing about 200 yards away.

?It was clear that they were not aiming at a specific house, but fired lots and it fell where it fell,? said Abdel-Latif al-Seifi, whose three-story villa just beyond the school?s north wall ended up with two large holes in its roof.

The Jabaliya strike has already opened Israel to a new level of global scrutiny. International criticism ratcheted up another notch on Sunday after a missile the Israelis say was meant for three militants on a motorcycle also killed people waiting in line for food outside a United Nations school in Rafah that had been turned into a shelter.

Though Israeli military leaders have declared definitively that no United Nations facility was targeted, Rafah was the sixth shelter struck during the operation. Such strikes have renewed sharp questions about the tactics Israel uses in dense neighborhoods and, especially, near shelters that are supposed to provide refuge to people who follow Israel?s own orders to leave areas of fierce fighting.

?Why aren?t the safe zones working?? asked Robert Turner, the Gaza director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which is sheltering nearly 260,000 people in 90 schools and emails the Israeli authorities with their exact locations twice a day. ?Why are the military decisions being made that are leading to these tragedies??

The Israeli general who heads a committee charged with investigating the civilian impact of ground operations said that he did not know the details of what happened in Jabaliya because the troops involved were still fighting and therefore had not been interviewed. Speaking on the condition of anonymity under military protocol, the general said in an interview that ?Hamas people were shooting at? a group of soldiers working to destroy a tunnel in the area. No Israelis were killed or wounded.

The New York Times emailed Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a military spokesman, a map of where the strikes hit and asked him to point out where Israeli forces were operating, and from where in the 200-yard radius around the school they saw enemy fire; he did not respond. Colonel Lerner and the general refused to say what ordnance was deployed.
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Asked whether artillery would be appropriate in such a situation, the general said ?the question is whether or not they were under great or imminent risk.?

?The sheer orders are you are not allowed to fire artillery or mortar shells into urban areas unless there are imminent risks for human lives ? meaning only if you are under deadly fire or under great risk,? he said. ?The orders are clear. But I find it very difficult to judge those fighters under fire and tell them, ?Look, please open your textbook and read out loud what we told you.? ?



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And morons support Israel, why?


 
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And morons support Israel, why?

Because both sides have done horrible things to the other, so they pick the side they can feel better for.

Yay God?


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the militant group that dominates Gaza, that it is the enemy?s insistence on operating near shelters and other humanitarian sites that endangers civilians. But in the Jabaliya case, they provided no evidence of such activity

As I've said, Israel fabricates lies in order to get away with shit


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When physical evidence collected in the UN investigations stop proving that they in fact do those things?


I can't wait to see how butthurt you people are going to be when UN confirms the accusations against Hamas just like they did in '08/'09.


I will laugh so hard and forever shame you.


 
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When are they going to stop lying about Hamas using civilians as shields and using schools and hospitals to hide their weapons?
About the same time that Hamas stops using civilians as shields, which will be around the same time AQAP decides to stop shooting at marked medevac aircraft.


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You go Palestine! Preach your peace!

Hamas number 1!

Terrorism number 1!

Child indoctrination number 1!


This is what you plebs support.

You condemn Israel for the death of civilians however ignore/justify Palestine's direct targeting of civilians in terrorist acts.


Hypocrisy and extremism at its finest. And you people are breeding it and accepting it.


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When are they going to stop lying about Hamas using civilians as shields and using schools and hospitals to hide their weapons?


http://youtu.be/7Sow8R9uZ_4

Hamas gunmen using ambulances to transport themselves and weapons when IDF arrive.

Yep. You claim shit like this doesn't happen.


 
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When are they going to stop lying about Hamas using civilians as shields and using schools and hospitals to hide their weapons?


http://youtu.be/7Sow8R9uZ_4

Hamas gunmen using ambulances to transport themselves and weapons when IDF arrive.

Yep. You claim shit like this doesn't happen.
Diesel Rose if you're going to post here at least don't be a coward about it


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Coward?

I am in cahoots with Spooky.

If you are going to throw allegations at least check your sources.


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You go Palestine! Preach your peace!

Hamas number 1!

Terrorism number 1!

Child indoctrination number 1!


This is what you plebs support.

You condemn Israel for the death of civilians however ignore/justify Palestine's direct targeting of civilians in terrorist acts.


Hypocrisy and extremism at its finest. And you people are breeding it and accepting it.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/13162-israeli-soldier-i-killed-13-childrens-today-and-ur-next-muslims
You go Israel! Preach your peace!

IDF number 1!

Terrorism number 1!

Global indoctrination number 1!


This is what you plebs support.

You condemn Palestine for the death of civilians however ignore/justify Israel direct targeting of civilians in terrorist acts.


Hypocrisy and extremism at its finest. And you people are breeding it and accepting it.


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I single handedly defeated both Russia and Ukraine.


See how that works?

You find a pic, you post it with whatever caption you want to get whatever desired effect you want, and then you withdraw it when there is outrage.

Does the pic have to be of you? (In this case it is me) No. But post a random photo of a person holding a weapon in uniform making outrageous claims and the world/media go crazy.

Propaganda/PSYOPS 101.


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Why are we still giving them millions of dollars worth of weapons?


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I single handedly defeated both Russia and Ukraine.


See how that works?

You find a pic, you post it with whatever caption you want to get whatever desired effect you want, and then you withdraw it when there is outrage.

Does the pic have to be of you? (In this case it is me) No. But post a random photo of a person holding a weapon in uniform making outrageous claims and the world/media go crazy.

Propaganda/PSYOPS 101.
If you're speaking to me then lol at you. That picture in the link is real and came from the Twitter, which the account has been removed, of an Israeli soldier. It's not making outrageous claims when the claims are real


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I suggest you look into the KKK scandal that rocked the ADF up in Townsville where members took a group photo with all white members wearing KKK hoods.

It was all a joke, but people get touchy feely and lose their shit.


Plus people have a bad taste in jokes.

Please come back and see me when it is confirmed that 13 kids were shot with an anti-material rifle as posted in that pic.

I doubt that muppet armed clown could even carry it.


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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-media-war-did-idf-soldier-david-ovadia-really-kill-13-children-today-1459235


There we go.

Discussing the whole issue.

The only thing that has been confirmed is that it is a photo if an actual IDF member.

If you also look online every source other than this source aren't even main media outlets.

It didn't even make it to TV over here or in any news paper and that all occurred days ago.


Ask yourself why?

Zionist conspiracy? Or propaganda as I pointed out?


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Here we go,

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2c95ve/israeli_sniper_boasts_about_killing_palestinian/

More idiots throwing links/sources about this and sources of UN admitting Hamas fired/stored rockets in schools.


Congratulations you have bought into black propaganda!


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I suggest you look into the KKK scandal that rocked the ADF up in Townsville where members took a group photo with all white members wearing KKK hoods.

It was all a joke, but people get touchy feely and lose their shit.


Plus people have a bad taste in jokes.

Please come back and see me when it is confirmed that 13 kids were shot with an anti-material rifle as posted in that pic.

I doubt that muppet armed clown could even carry it.
>israeli soldier publicly announces he killed 13 children
>still denies it

Israel has some serious brain washing going on if you're going to be in denial of the truth.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/03/israeli-army-whistle-blower-leaks-account-of-revenge-attacks-against-civilians-by-israeli-troops-in-gazas-shujaiyya/
Are you going to deny this also?


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http://forums.liveleak.com/showthread.php?t=111056&page=4


Another good one.


Also has discussions as why NO media sources other than the shit ones are picking up this story.


Please tell me when you feel like a moron and want me to stop.


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Read it.

User input in regards to stories rather than investigative journalism.

They consists of bloggers and citizen journalists that report on thighs within the "blogosphere".

I'm guessing you have never gone to university or college? Dot know what credible sources are? I suggest you look into it.

"Blogs" do not pass as credible sources. Sources that then rehash on "blogs" make it even less credible.

Time for you to learn something.



 
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>israeli soldier publicly announces he killed 13 children
>still denies it

Israel has some serious brain washing going on if you're going to be in denial of the truth.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/08/03/israeli-army-whistle-blower-leaks-account-of-revenge-attacks-against-civilians-by-israeli-troops-in-gazas-shujaiyya/
Are you going to deny this also?
Let me explain the point that he's trying to make.

 I could take this picture here, put it on facebook or twitter with a caption about how that blade was in an Afghan girl's throat as a stupid joke or while tying to be an internet tough guy and suddenly become a tool of anti-American propaganda as that post is circulated through the internet. 
We'd know it's bullshit as I'm a helicopter mechanic who's never even deployed, but nobody else does.


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There we go.

Discussing the whole issue.

>discussing the whole issue
>only discusses one side of the issue

Of course somebody who writes for an ISRAELI news agency is going to deny it. Saying it's real is going to prove their country are lying SoB's. And that Christer comment is supposed to discredit this how? Fun fact: The Soldier's name is David D. Ovadia, which explains the two "d"s next to each other

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If you also look online every source other than this source aren't even main media outlets.

It didn't even make it to TV over here or in any news paper and that all occurred days ago.


Ask yourself why?

Zionist conspiracy? Or propaganda as I pointed out?
Maybe because much of Manipulative Mass Media basically bows down to Israel? Nah, that can't be it. Just because something isn't from CNN or Fox then it never happened. That's you being brainwashed

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More idiots throwing links/sources about this and sources of UN admitting Hamas fired/stored rockets in schools.
See my comments above

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Another good one.


Also has discussions as why NO media sources other than the shit ones are picking up this story.


Please tell me when you feel like a moron and want me to stop.
Again, read 2 above for my response



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Read it.

User input in regards to stories rather than investigative journalism.

They consists of bloggers and citizen journalists that report on thighs within the "blogosphere".
And yet the IBT link you sent me is written by a blogger as well. Toplel

Did you even read the quoted parts from the whistle blowers Facebook profile?
https://www.facebook.com/eran.efrati.9/posts/10204298741811864

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I'm guessing you have never gone to university or college? Dot know what credible sources are? I suggest you look into it.

"Blogs" do not pass as credible sources. Sources that then rehash on "blogs" make it even less credible.

Time for you to learn something.
I'm currently in my 2nd year of college and have completed to English courses. Both of my professors had very impressed standings towards the multiple researched papers I was assigned. If the link I provided didn't have a link towards the original source, being the Facebook page of the whistle-blower, then I wouldn't have linked it

Time for YOU to learn something






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That brings back some disturbing memories.


Thanks a fucking million for that.

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I would let you work on my helicopter.
I've become an expert on helicoptering.
Now, since there's two of us though, one has to spin in a different direction so as to counter the torque or each rotor. This is called "the Chinook".


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>discussing the whole issue
>only discusses one side of the issue

Of course somebody who writes for an ISRAELI news agency is going to deny it. Saying it's real is going to prove their country are lying SoB's. And that Christer comment is supposed to discredit this how? Fun fact: The Soldier's name is David D. Ovadia, which explains the two "d"s next to each other
Maybe because much of Manipulative Mass Media basically bows down to Israel? Nah, that can't be it. Just because something isn't from CNN or Fox then it never happened. That's you being brainwashed
See my comments above
Again, read 2 above for my response


And yet the IBT link you sent me is written by a blogger as well. Toplel

Did you even read the quoted parts from the whistle blowers Facebook profile?
https://www.facebook.com/eran.efrati.9/posts/10204298741811864
I'm currently in my 2nd year of college and have completed to English courses. Both of my professors had very impressed standings towards the multiple researched papers I was assigned. If the link I provided didn't have a link towards the original source, being the Facebook page of the whistle-blower, then I wouldn't have linked it

Time for YOU to learn something


Yes everyone is lying and covering up the truth! It's a giant Zionist conspiracy!

I think you need to upgrade your tinfoil hat to MK2. I read somewhere on a random blog that the Israeli's can now read your thoughts and think pro-Zionist thoughts remotely.


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Let me explain the point that he's trying to make.

 I could take this picture here, put it on facebook or twitter with a caption about how that blade was in an Afghan girl's throat as a stupid joke or while tying to be an internet tough guy and suddenly become a tool of anti-American propaganda as that post is circulated through the internet. 
We'd know it's bullshit as I'm a helicopter mechanic who's never even deployed, but nobody else does.


Do you have a name for this mythical weapon of mass destruction?

"Soul taker"?

"Throat splitter"?


I call my 40mm GLA The Jabberwocky. Because screaming "unleash the Jabberwocky!" Is more fun than screaming "GLA firing now!"