Quote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.
If NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.
Quote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.I don't really think climate change can be stopped by anything other than geoengineering efforts at this point, and Europe will be the one paying for those.Also, we've got GMOs to protect us for the next 4-8 years.
Quote from: Street Hawk on November 14, 2016, 01:45:44 PMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:51:27 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuckthe planet's already fucked beyond savingspace exploration is literally our only hope to surviveI can't think of a situation in the near future where sending people into space would be anywhere near as efficient as toughing it out on Earth. Overpopulation? You'd have to transport hundreds of thousands offworld every day just to keep even with population growth.Global Warming? Flooding and the like would be disastrous, sure, but I don't see how going into space would be any easier.Nukes/ Asteroids/ Supervolcano/ whatever? Living in a bunker would still ultimately be easier. No disaster event would be threatening enough to make living on Mars or something more profitable than living in a similar bunker on Earth, with the added bonus of being able to scavenge and recover existing infrastructure. Even if it came to the worst, Earth still has an atmosphere, radiation shielding, liquid water and livable temperatures which aren't present anywhere else in the solar system.Going into space is cool and I'm a big advocate for extraterrestrial resource extraction and whatnot, but until we have the technology it's a meme that isn't viable nor practical.
Quote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:51:27 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuckthe planet's already fucked beyond savingspace exploration is literally our only hope to survive
Quote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuck
Quote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:51:27 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuckTrump's an evil supervillain. He takes all the money from protecting our own planet, puts into space travel and then, a few years down the line, uses his massive wealth to buy himself a ticket to live on Mars while the rest rot down on earth.Calling it now.
I don't exactly know why he's so interested in Europa, though. Great location, no doubt, and a stunning view, but if he's interested in the subsurface ocean (If he even knows it's there, which I doubt he's been informed on), it's through like seven miles of ice that's harder than granite. There isn't a whole lot to gain from a Europa mission until you find some way to drill through several miles of ice with something small enough to load onto a rocket, and I'd suspect that's quite a ways off. But Mars, hell yeah. Let's get that ball rolling.
Quote from: Hargbeast on November 14, 2016, 04:37:47 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.I don't really think climate change can be stopped by anything other than geoengineering efforts at this point, and Europe will be the one paying for those.Also, we've got GMOs to protect us for the next 4-8 years.Praise monsato
Why Europa though in particular? Even though I know both are a ways down the line, I wouldn't mind seeing NASA direct resources to exploring Titan personally.
Plus its hydrocarbon seas aren't covered by 7 miles of ice like Europa.
So is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Alpha on November 16, 2016, 10:37:35 PMSo is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty
Quote from: BaconShelf on November 17, 2016, 04:43:34 AMQuote from: Alpha on November 16, 2016, 10:37:35 PMSo is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_TreatyNot going to last, in all likelihood.
Quote from: Winy on November 17, 2016, 06:44:22 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 17, 2016, 04:43:34 AMQuote from: Alpha on November 16, 2016, 10:37:35 PMSo is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_TreatyNot going to last, in all likelihood.I'm counting on it for my scifi to make any sense.
Would it make more sense to start out with a fuel depot in that zone in between Earth and the moon, then work towards asteroid mining for resources, then a moon base which is similar to the International Space Station, then branch out from there?
Quote from: BaconShelf on November 18, 2016, 12:49:22 AMQuote from: Winy on November 17, 2016, 06:44:22 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 17, 2016, 04:43:34 AMQuote from: Alpha on November 16, 2016, 10:37:35 PMSo is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_TreatyNot going to last, in all likelihood.I'm counting on it for my scifi to make any sense.To be fair there's a fi part in scifi
Quote from: Winy on November 17, 2016, 06:44:22 PMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 17, 2016, 04:43:34 AMQuote from: Alpha on November 16, 2016, 10:37:35 PMSo is Trump going to claim Mars and Europa as territory of the US?Sent from my LG-H810 using Tapatalkhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_TreatyNot going to last, in all likelihood.How so?
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Quote from: Flee on November 14, 2016, 02:32:14 PMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:51:27 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuckTrump's an evil supervillain. He takes all the money from protecting our own planet, puts into space travel and then, a few years down the line, uses his massive wealth to buy himself a ticket to live on Mars while the rest rot down on earth.Calling it now.
Quote from: Yang on November 14, 2016, 10:39:00 PMQuote from: Flee on November 14, 2016, 02:32:14 PMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:51:27 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on November 14, 2016, 11:37:12 AMQuote from: TBlocks on November 14, 2016, 11:27:38 AMIf NASA gets more funding because of this I will consider this an upside to Trump being president.More likely the money from environmental science stuff will just be put into the space program instead.Fucking fuckTrump's an evil supervillain. He takes all the money from protecting our own planet, puts into space travel and then, a few years down the line, uses his massive wealth to buy himself a ticket to live on Mars while the rest rot down on earth.Calling it now.Why is Trump ripping up his cape?