Transcripts from police body camera video recordings give new insight into Ge...

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Ian · July 12, 2020, 09:22:31 PM

https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcript-read-it-in-full-here/

So can we talk about how he asked to lay on the ground and repeatedly says he can't breathe long before a knee was on his neck? Not saying Chauvin isn't guilty, but it's awfully convenient how no one is mentioning these facts.

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Desty · July 13, 2020, 06:24:30 AM

Quote from: Ian on July 12, 2020, 09:22:31 PM

https://www.twincities.com/2020/07/09/george-floyd-transcript-read-it-in-full-here/

So can we talk about how he asked to lay on the ground and repeatedly says he can't breathe long before a knee was on his neck? Not saying Chauvin isn't guilty, but it's awfully convenient how no one is mentioning these facts.

What do you mean? I keep hearing he died of a heart attack or something unrelated to the knee on his neck. That doesn't really make things more easy-going or anything. The cops were in the wrong, and as a result of their rough treatment George's condition probably worsened and because the cops didn't pay him any attention he died. I don't get what you want to talk about, if you have something to say just say it, nobody's gonna talk for you, talk for yourself.

Desty · July 13, 2020, 06:26:22 AM

Even if he didn't die, the way those cops treated him was god-awful and not justifiable in any way. They had him in cuffs and on his back yet felt the need to push down on his neck

Ian · July 13, 2020, 06:46:48 AM

That is definitely not the narrative I'm hearing from news/media outlets; instead I'm being told that he died as a result of suffocation from Chauvin having his knee pressed down on his head. I completely agree that Chauvin's treatment of George only worsened the situation, but when reading the actual transcripts the situation was completely fine before he entered the picture. The initial cop handling Flyd was being polite and respectful when interacting with Floyd (Floyd repeatedly asking to open up a window because he was claustrophobic in a car and the cop repeatedly saying he'd not only do that but also keep the AC in the car on for him). The only issue was the cop was asking politely for Floyd to cooperate with him, but he wasn't being aggressive about it.

I see other reports that Chauvin knew Floyd previously. However that appears to have disappeared almost completely by now. Why do you think that is? Maybe because it would paint a different narrative that Chauvin was acting alone in abusing Floyd out of personal reasons and therefore they can't paint a racist picture against every cop on the scene (which is already incredibly dubious with these transcripts)?

Quote from: Desty on July 13, 2020, 06:24:30 AM

What do you mean? I keep hearing he died of a heart attack or something unrelated to the knee on his neck. That doesn't really make things more easy-going or anything. The cops were in the wrong, and as a result of their rough treatment George's condition probably worsened and because the cops didn't pay him any attention he died. I don't get what you want to talk about, if you have something to say just say it, nobody's gonna talk for you, talk for yourself.

Desty · July 14, 2020, 06:00:51 AM

Quote from: Ian on July 13, 2020, 06:46:48 AM

That is definitely not the narrative I'm hearing from news/media outlets; instead I'm being told that he died as a result of suffocation from Chauvin having his knee pressed down on his head. I completely agree that Chauvin's treatment of George only worsened the situation, but when reading the actual transcripts the situation was completely fine before he entered the picture. The initial cop handling Flyd was being polite and respectful when interacting with Floyd (Floyd repeatedly asking to open up a window because he was claustrophobic in a car and the cop repeatedly saying he'd not only do that but also keep the AC in the car on for him). The only issue was the cop was asking politely for Floyd to cooperate with him, but he wasn't being aggressive about it.

I see other reports that Chauvin knew Floyd previously. However that appears to have disappeared almost completely by now. Why do you think that is? Maybe because it would paint a different narrative that Chauvin was acting alone in abusing Floyd out of personal reasons and therefore they can't paint a racist picture against every cop on the scene (which is already incredibly dubious with these transcripts)?

Quote from: Desty on July 13, 2020, 06:24:30 AM
What do you mean? I keep hearing he died of a heart attack or something unrelated to the knee on his neck. That doesn't really make things more easy-going or anything. The cops were in the wrong, and as a result of their rough treatment George's condition probably worsened and because the cops didn't pay him any attention he died. I don't get what you want to talk about, if you have something to say just say it, nobody's gonna talk for you, talk for yourself.

Ok so your issue is with those medias painting the wrong picture. You're letting it affect you for no reason in other regards. You're bringing that shit into this discussion on sep7agon. You have to be more self-contained and pragmatic. If your issue is with media outlets giving false information or there being a general misconceptions of something, then go ahead and spread awareness if it affects you so much, just don't expect the hate to subside over details. You gain absolutely nothing by bitching about it. Present the facts, then be done with it. You come across as someone who's on the cops' side right now, and that's not a good thing since that'd mean you're missing the bigger picture.

Ian · July 14, 2020, 08:52:56 AM

When most people get their information from these media outlets that aren't giving all the facts, it's going to affect discussion wherever you go, not just here.

Quote from: Desty on July 14, 2020, 06:00:51 AM

Ok so your issue is with those medias painting the wrong picture. You're letting it affect you for no reason in other regards. You're bringing that shit into this discussion on sep7agon.