OH FUCK PLANTS HAVE A SOUL

 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I, for one, embrace my desire to be better than the other guy
And that's why I like you.
Is that why you love me too?
But Abdul, I already do not love you.
Fuck you Billybob
I'll never allow that, Sharif.
You don't have a choice, Billy Bojimbob.
But I do, Mohammed Ibn al-Falafel. I'm an AMERICAN!


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Cum on goys.... We were supposed to discuss evolutionary similarities between plants and animals.


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Not at all you say? Something going from alive to not alive?
Not at all. There's bacteria in my body going from alive to not alive all the time.

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Anything alive has something to lose by default. Its own life. I'm not one to advocate for speeding up the process of that loss on anything if I can avoid it. But, question.
That's a strange use of the word "loss". I can tip water out of a glass, and technically that glass has lost water. But not in any morally relevant sense.

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What's considered morally important here?
Capacity to experience, basically. "Life" is just the term we use when an orgnanism fits certain criteria; if it can grow, adapt, metabolize and reproduce, it's alive. That says nothing about whether it can feel, though.
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Your love gets me so high
Why do vegans have to justify that their lifestyle choice is morally superior to everyone else? Just live your life and I'll live mine.


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uhhh...

- korrie
Plants are tasty.


 
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Why do vegans have to justify that their lifestyle choice is morally superior to everyone else? Just live your life and I'll live mine.
We're not justifying anything.

We're asking you, the meat-eater, to justify YOUR "lifestyle choice" of supporting a global holocaust.

"Live your life and I'll live mine" is perhaps the most juvenile philosophy I've ever heard.
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Why do vegans have to justify that their lifestyle choice is morally superior to everyone else? Just live your life and I'll live mine.
We're not justifying anything.

We're asking you, the meat-eater, to justify YOUR "lifestyle choice" of supporting a global holocaust.

"Live your life and I'll live mine" is perhaps the most juvenile philosophy I've ever heard.
Well if you're asking me to justify why I eat meat, it's simply because I require the nutrients in them to sustain my active lifestyle. Chicken is loaded with protein and amino acids necessary for muscle development. Of course, it's very possible to maintain my lifestyle with a vegan diet, but the fact of the matter is that it's expensive and rather difficult for me to find alternatives that can even compare to the nutritional goldmine that are lean meats.

I have nothing against vegans and I'd even be open to trying to make a change to that diet one day. But, in the meantime, I'm continuing to do what I'm comfortable with.

If it makes you feel any better, I only buy vegetarian-fed, organic chicken products, and red meats are a delicacy to me. I'm disgusted by the majority of the meat industry.


 
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Well, good, I'm glad. That was a better response than what I was anticipating.

I just don't appreciate this attitude people have towards vegans--"I'm fine with vegans, but I don't like when they shove their beliefs down my throat"--when the first amendment guarantees my right and ability to shove whatever beliefs I may have down the throats of anyone I please. Because I think it's important.


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uhhh...

- korrie
Verby likes to shove it down your throat :-D :-D :-D :-D


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

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I just don't appreciate this attitude people have towards vegans--"I'm fine with vegans, but I don't like when they shove their beliefs down my throat"--when the first amendment guarantees my right and ability to shove whatever beliefs I may have down the throats of anyone I please. Because I think it's important.

Eh, that doesn't really apply to anywhere outside of the US (and even then, this applies).

Regardless of what cause is important, it gives me the same right to ignore it as you have to say it.


 
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Exactly. Just don't tell me not to say what I'm saying.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Exactly. Just don't tell me not to say what I'm saying.

That's fine by me. Otherwise we go down the road of censoring and all that shit.


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Cum on goys.... We were supposed to discuss evolutionary similarities between plants and animals.
they both exist...


 
 
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Purely hypothetical question to vegans / vegetarians here: if research would show that plants are actually capable of experiencing some sort of actual suffering or pain, would that lead to you stopping eating fruits and vegetables?
No. If anything, it would provide one more moral incentive to be vegan, because the majority of the world's crops are fed to livestock.


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My problem is I love too hard.
There is only one soul.