That was their plan.
They're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.Good luck getting rid of them.
Quote from: Winy on November 16, 2015, 08:36:13 PMQuote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AMThey're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.Good luck getting rid of them.>Implying the "Dust" can "Settle" within any of their lifetimes.Syria will still be a shithole long after this generation of refugees have died. Put yourself in their shoes; would you honestly want to go back to such a despot when you've found a new home that's sixty times better?Okay cool, so call them what they are if they aren't going back- migrants.A refugee takes refuge, not residence. You don't get to take the title just because it makes your cause look prettier politically.
Quote from: Θεμιστοκλῆς on November 16, 2015, 10:53:41 AMThey're only refugees if they plan to go back when the dust has settled.Good luck getting rid of them.>Implying the "Dust" can "Settle" within any of their lifetimes.Syria will still be a shithole long after this generation of refugees have died. Put yourself in their shoes; would you honestly want to go back to such a despot when you've found a new home that's sixty times better?
Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?
Where'd you pull that definition from? Webster? Your asshole? . I've always heard it in that context and have always encountered others with the same understanding. I'm sorry the common conversational understanding offends your sensibilities.
Quote from: Fagcicle on November 16, 2015, 09:15:46 AMThat was their plan.
And they succeeded
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AMAm I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.We can see how that went.
Quote from: SuperIrish on November 17, 2015, 10:13:22 AMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 17, 2015, 06:58:27 AMAm I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.We can see how that went.Wasn't that more to do with factions like the FSA quickly becoming radicalized and/or crushed by Government forces?
America should not accept any refugees and neither should Europe. Why should we have to deal with this mess? Why don't the Saudis take them? They have fucking air conditioned tents that are completely empty right now where the refugees can wait safely then return to their countries. Want to immigrate? Get a fucking visa and wait in line like everybody else. Fucking cowards should be fighting ISIS anyway.