There's new evidence of a Neptune-sized planet beyond Pluto

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The solar system appears to have a new ninth planet. Today, two scientists announced evidence that a body nearly the size of Neptune—but as yet unseen—orbits the sun every 15,000 years. During the solar system’s infancy 4.5 billion years ago, they say, the giant planet was knocked out of the planet-forming region near the sun. Slowed down by gas, the planet settled into a distant elliptical orbit, where it still lurks today.

The claim is the strongest yet in the centuries-long search for a “Planet X” beyond Neptune. The quest has been plagued by far-fetched claims and even outright quackery. But the new evidence comes from a pair of respected planetary scientists, Konstantin Batygin and Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena, who prepared for the inevitable skepticism with detailed analyses of the orbits of other distant objects and months of computer simulations. “If you say, ‘We have evidence for Planet X,’ almost any astronomer will say, ‘This again? These guys are clearly crazy.’ I would, too,” Brown says. “Why is this different? This is different because this time we’re right.”

Outside scientists say their calculations stack up and express a mixture of caution and excitement about the result. “I could not imagine a bigger deal if—and of course that’s a boldface ‘if’—if it turns out to be right,” says Gregory Laughlin, a planetary scientist at the University of California (UC), Santa Cruz. “What’s thrilling about it is [the planet] is detectable.”

Batygin and Brown inferred its presence from the peculiar clustering of six previously known objects that orbit beyond Neptune. They say there’s only a 0.007% chance, or about one in 15,000, that the clustering could be a coincidence. Instead, they say, a planet with the mass of 10 Earths has shepherded the six objects into their strange elliptical orbits, tilted out of the plane of the solar system.

The orbit of the inferred planet is similarly tilted, as well as stretched to distances that will explode previous conceptions of the solar system. Its closest approach to the sun is seven times farther than Neptune, or 200 astronomical units (AUs). (An AU is the distance between Earth and the sun, about 150 million kilometers.) And Planet X could roam as far as 600 to 1200 AU, well beyond the Kuiper belt, the region of small icy worlds that begins at Neptune’s edge about 30 AU.

If Planet X is out there, Brown and Batygin say, astronomers ought to find more objects in telltale orbits, shaped by the pull of the hidden giant. But Brown knows that no one will really believe in the discovery until Planet X itself appears within a telescope viewfinder. “Until there’s a direct detection, it’s a hypothesis—even a potentially very good hypothesis,” he says. The team has time on the one large telescope in Hawaii that is suited for the search, and they hope other astronomers will join in the hunt.
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‘This again? These guys are clearly crazy.’ I would, too,” Brown says. “Why is this different? This is different because this time we’re right.”

When did Verb become an astronomer?

Seriously though, I really admire astronomers for their ability to learn so much about the universe through models and calculations rather than relying on direct observation.
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It has been theorised that there's a full sized planet orbiting beyond Pluto's orbit, as such an object would theoretically help prevent a lot of comets entering the outer and inner solar system. Anything that proves this to be trye is awesome.


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ah, yes, read some articles on this this morning. i really do hope it's true. i mean, we still dont know everything in our solar system, discovering a new planet would mean a huge blow to what we dont whats in our own solar system. i do hope we find it, if the calculations are correct.


 
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heres a video on planet nine

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Fascinating stuff but having blue balls for the next five years isn't something I'll enjoy.


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Fascinating stuff but having blue balls for the next five years isn't something I'll enjoy.

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One telescope can help: Subaru, an 8-meter telescope in Hawaii that is owned by Japan. It has enough light-gathering area to detect such a faint object, coupled with a huge field of view—75 times larger than that of a Keck telescope. That allows astronomers to scan large swaths of the sky each night. Batygin and Brown are using Subaru to look for Planet X—and they are coordinating their efforts with their erstwhile competitors, Sheppard and Trujillo, who have also joined the hunt with Subaru. Brown says it will take about 5 years for the two teams to search most of the area where Planet X could be lurking.


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Great, just when we thought we've probed the last object in our solar system, another one has to go and get discovered...

But this is welcome news, more things to be interested in in the local area. If it's Neptune sized however, would it have to be a gas planet (or at that distance away from the Sun, a frozen one)?


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Great, just when we thought we've probed the last object in our solar system, another one has to go and get discovered...

But this is welcome news, more things to be interested in in the local area. If it's Neptune sized however, would it have to be a gas planet (or at that distance away from the Sun, a frozen one)?
Almost certainly. Terrestrial planets don't get to that size because of the way that planetary formation works. Any rocky body that becomes that massive will have a strong enough gravitational pull to trap lighter materials in protoplanetary disks, like Hydrogen or Helium. As a result, they end up becoming gas planets; there's no reason to assume anything like a Neptune-sized terrestrial planet could ever form naturally.


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just when we thought we've probed the last object in our solar system
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no, we must go deeper.