In the late 1990s the Taliban controlled Afghanistan, but the fighting that brought them to power left many militants struggling with the psychological effects of war. One doctor recognised the problem and, although he disagreed with the Taliban's ideology, agreed to treat them."I remember the first group of Taliban who came to see me," says Afghan psychiatrist Nader Alemi. "They used to come in groups, not as individuals. When I treated one, he would spread the word."Fighters would turn up with my name on a piece of paper. They would say that I'd cured their friend, and now they wanted to be cured too. Most of them had never been to a doctor before."A familiar figure in Afghanistan, Alemi is based in Mazar-e-Sharif in the north of the country. Taliban forces captured the city in August 1998 and won control of much of the surrounding area.But while they were succeeding on the battlefield, Alemi saw the mental strain of years of fighting.He was the only psychiatrist in northern Afghanistan to speak Pashto, the language of most Taliban."Language was very important - because I spoke their language, they felt comfortable opening up," he says.One day the Taliban's provincial governor Akthar Osmani summoned Alemi to see him - Mullah Akhtar was second in command to Mullah Omar, the group's spiritual leader.Afghan psychiatrist Nader Alemi in his clinic in Mazar-e-Sharif Afghan psychiatrist Nader Alemi at his clinic in Mazar-e-Sharif"He was hearing voices and he was delusional - his bodyguards told me they could hear him raving during the night," says Alemi. Mullah Akhtar's staff also said their boss often didn't recognise them."This man had been on the front line for goodness knows how long, and seen goodness knows how many people killed in front of him. All those explosions and screams may still have been echoing in his head, even sitting in the comfort of his office."Alemi wanted to see Mullah Akhtar regularly to provide long-term treatment, but his patient would go off on missions every three months, and only kept a few appointments. Much later, in 2006, Mullah Akhtar was killed in an airstrike.A group of Islamic militants, members of the Afghan religious Taliban militia, move toward the front line on a tank, near Kabul, on February 18, 1995 Taliban fighters near the front line in 1995Alemi treated other high-ranking Taliban officials too. "We became sort of friends. [One] asked me to see him at his headquarters - he was suffering from depression and chronic pain, and I prescribed him drugs to alleviate his symptoms.""I don't remember the exact numbers who came to me, but it must have been in the thousands. I treated them for almost three years, before Mazar was recaptured in November 2001."Because most of these patients had never been to a doctor before, Alemi asked if their commanders forbade it but that wasn't the case. "To be honest, they were so into their mission and daily routine that they didn't have time for medication. Surprisingly, all of them believed in my treatments.Map showing location of Mazar-e-Sharif"The reason they gave me for the turmoil in their minds was the uncertainty in their lives. They had no control over what was happening to them. Everything was in the hands of their commanders. They got depressed because they never knew what would happen from one minute to the next."Most of them hadn't seen their families for months - they hadn't seen their children who had grown big."Alemi found many of the soldiers wanted to die. "They told me they [wanted] to commit suicide, but couldn't because of Islamic values."One said: "Every time I go to the frontline, I wish someone would shoot me and bring an end to my life. But I still survive and hate this sort of living.""I used to treat the Taliban as human beings, same as I would treat my other patients… even though I knew they had caused all the problems in our society," says Alemi. "Sometimes, they would weep and I would comfort them."lineMental health in AfghanistanA resident of Kabul's 15 patient men's mental institution, sits in his bed October 15, 2002 In 2010 the health ministry said that two thirds of the population had a mental illness Problems are mainly caused by continued violence, poverty, unemployment, domestic violence and drug addiction A nationwide survey conducted by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 2002 found high levels of depression, anxiety, and PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) - women and people with disabilities were most affected In 2006, the WHO reported that less than 1% of medical training was devoted to mental health The few specialist hospitals that once existed have been replaced by a Mental Consultation Section in big state-run hospitalsOne of the main problems was that Alemi's patients were often sent off on missions and could never commit to follow-up sessions.Consultations cost the equivalent of $1 and the Taliban sometimes sent their wives and daughters to Alemi for treatment as well. "They too were suffering depression, because they wouldn't see their husbands, fathers for a long time and they didn't know what the future held for them."Even the notorious religious police, the Amr Bil Ma'ruf, let him get on with his business. Alemi remembers how one day they were shouting on their loudspeakers, telling people to leave their jobs and get to mosque for prayers, but he was still seeing patients."One of my staff shouted from the building and said: 'The doctor is busy seeing patients'," says Alemi. The Amr Bil Ma'ruf shouted back and said: "It is alright, let him do his job."Incredibly, at the same time that Alemi was treating the Taliban, his wife ran an underground school for about 100 girls - under the Taliban girls were not allowed to study.Afghan pupils attend class at a girls school in Kabul on September 20, 2010. Girls' schools reopened after the Taliban were removed from powerParvin Alemi taught them about literature, language, maths and Islamic books. "All I wanted was to educate girls," she says. "Now some are doctors, engineers and teachers. They all appreciate what I did for them. They say they would have remained illiterate if I didn't educate them."The pupils included the Alemis' own daughters - one is now a doctor and two are teachers.But weren't they running a terrible risk? "I asked them to come separately, not in groups, to avoid any problems," says Parvin Alemi. "We kept the school secret. We asked our students not to tell anyone either. It was a dangerous decision, but I am proud to have taken the risk."The couple were worried that the Taliban might catch them, but Alemi says they seemed to look upon him kindly. "Since I didn't have any political ambitions or interest, I am sure even if they caught our underground school, they would be cool about it because they knew all we wanted was to help others."More than 15 years later, Alemi is still treating Afghans traumatised by conflict. The queues in his hospital stretch down the corridors, men and women in separate groups. They complain of depression, mood swings and nightmares.Alemi says the biggest underlying problem in their lives is still uncertainty - they face hardship and deprivation and have no idea what the future holds.
I want the 68pc of British Muslims who oppose freedom of speech to go to Iraq and Syria. They should fight for ISIS. They should behead innocents, murder children and proclaim genocide against the Jews. And those that aren't completely psychopathic should develop depression, PTSD, epilepsy and anxiety. They should suffer. Then, and only then, will they realise the true extent of the suffering their despicable ideology causes.
I'm not entirely sure how one would get epilepsy from beheading people >_>
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 26, 2014, 12:11:27 PMI'm not entirely sure how one would get epilepsy from beheading people >_>Physical trauma to the head can cause epilepsy. More a side-effect of warfare than beheading people specifically; it's actually quite a big problem for our own military.
So the real thing that I wonder, is how do you break through their walls?
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 26, 2014, 12:23:33 PMSo the real thing that I wonder, is how do you break through their walls? Well, there's your problem...Breaking through their walls got them mad, and now they fight. They could have started fighting for a cause, and now so wrapped up (and warped-up) in the wider scale of it, that there is no escape.It's a side-effect of killing, the psychological trauma. While we've been killing each other for thousands of years, it generally goes against the grain of our... morals? human nature? psyche? That sort of thing, anyway... and frankly I think that while for the person it's terrible (even to get that far to kill, and now suffering trauma), it's a good thing we have that "flaw". If we didn't, killing would mean nothing to us, we would be cold in that regard, and that would mean a much worse scenario on a global scale in general.Sorry, went mildly off-topic there. While I'm thinking about the OP; "Wow, these people suffer from such things too", I'm now also repulsed that that thought was the first to my mind. It's good that the BBC are at least somewhat impartial in their journalism, otherwise I'd still be thinking that out of sheer ignorance.Aaaaaaand I've gone mildly off-topic again.
I have a feeling you're obsessed with Muslim terrorists.
Quote from: Santa Luis on November 26, 2014, 10:24:48 PMI have a feeling you're obsessed with Muslim terrorists.I have two answers for you#1I am Ayatollah Psychologis of the glorious Islamic sultanate and caliphate of britbongistan after all.#2It's an interesting subject, but I'm by no means obsessed with the idiots who behead children and blow up schools.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 27, 2014, 07:58:25 AMQuote from: Santa Luis on November 26, 2014, 10:24:48 PMI have a feeling you're obsessed with Muslim terrorists.I have two answers for you#1I am Ayatollah Psychologis of the glorious Islamic sultanate and caliphate of britbongistan after all.#2It's an interesting subject, but I'm by no means obsessed with the idiots who behead children and blow up schools.Ok then…
Quote from: Santa Luis on November 27, 2014, 08:01:31 AMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on November 27, 2014, 07:58:25 AMQuote from: Santa Luis on November 26, 2014, 10:24:48 PMI have a feeling you're obsessed with Muslim terrorists.I have two answers for you#1I am Ayatollah Psychologis of the glorious Islamic sultanate and caliphate of britbongistan after all.#2It's an interesting subject, but I'm by no means obsessed with the idiots who behead children and blow up schools.Ok then…ALLAH AKBAR