The President of the USA Must be a Natural Born Citizen

Alternative Facts · October 15, 2014, 10:31:00 AM

In this day and age, is this requirement to become President of the United States necessary? What does it protect? Why is it so important?

Discuss.

P.S: No, this is not an invitation for certain members to claim Obama was born in Kenya.

DAS B00T x2 · October 15, 2014, 10:33:13 AM

It saves us from the Russians, I guess?

Magos Domina · October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AM

If a person holds that countries citizenship then yeah they should be able to run for office.

The neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.

Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 10:59:04 AM

So we don't have some Keny—-

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P.S: No, this is not an invitation for certain members to claim Obama was born in Kenya.

...oh

Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 11:00:41 AM

Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AM

If a person holds that countries citizenship then yeah they should be able to run for office.

I'd be okay with that if it was a minimum of 15 years or something.

RustingFloor · October 15, 2014, 12:31:07 PM

I see no problem with this rule.

Flee · October 15, 2014, 12:33:14 PM

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Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 12:35:05 PM

Quote from: Flee on October 15, 2014, 12:33:14 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
P.S: No, this is not an invitation for certain members to claim Obama was born in Kenya.
But have you even seen that Fox news report where they prove his birth certificate is a fake???

*sigh*

Yes, Grandma...

big sponge · October 15, 2014, 12:37:34 PM

Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AM

The neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.

Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him.

challengerX · October 15, 2014, 12:59:54 PM

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Dustin · October 15, 2014, 01:07:39 PM

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Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 01:08:23 PM

Quote from: Dustin xBasedGod on October 15, 2014, 01:07:39 PM

We already have a president that wasn't born in this country.

Can't be bothered to read the whole OP, I see...

Magos Domina · October 15, 2014, 01:12:22 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 15, 2014, 12:37:34 PM

Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AM
The neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.

Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him.

Wow seriously?

Flee · October 15, 2014, 01:15:52 PM

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Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM

The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

DAS B00T x2 · October 15, 2014, 01:20:37 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM

The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

Do you really think that would happen?

Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:21:19 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 15, 2014, 01:20:37 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?
Do you really think that would happen?

Yes, I do. Remove the requirement and you will see it happen

Flee · October 15, 2014, 01:26:28 PM

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Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 01:35:48 PM

If a Mexican cartel leader wants to run for US president - let him. It's not like he could win.

Alternative Facts · October 15, 2014, 01:39:08 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM

The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

Two questions.

1.) Do you know how the Constitution works?
2.) Do you know how the Elections work?

Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:40:24 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:35:48 PM

If a Mexican cartel leader wants to run for US president - let him. It's not like he could win.

That's very debatable. Just look how the cartels influence the people in Mexico, they can use same/similar tactics here to get the votes. Also remember Tammany Hall buying votes also in the 19th century

Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 01:39:08 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

Two questions.

1.) Do you know how the Constitution works?
2.) Do you know how the Elections work?

Yes, I do

Word Wizard · October 15, 2014, 01:43:53 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:35:48 PM

If a Mexican cartel leader wants to run for US president - let him. It's not like he could win.

>Cartel member runs
>puts a hit on all other candidates
>no one else runs
>wins by default

Alternative Facts · October 15, 2014, 01:44:27 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

Two questions.

1.) Do you know how the Constitution works?
2.) Do you know how the Elections work?
Yes, I do

Really? Based on your original post in this thread about cartels and mafia's running for office, and how the Constitution doesn't get cherry picked...you coulda fooled me.

Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:46:34 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 01:44:27 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:40:47 PM
Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
The Constitution is one package. Cherry-picking is NOT how you are to run a government. Do you seriously want people from Mexican cartels and Russian mafia bosses to run for president?

Two questions.

1.) Do you know how the Constitution works?
2.) Do you know how the Elections work?
Yes, I do

Really? Based on your original post in this thread about cartels and mafia's running for office, and how the Constitution doesn't get cherry picked...you coulda fooled me.

Your point? Remove the requirement for a natural-born citizen to run then you'll have people from Mexico and Russia that are part of criminal organizations running for offices. There's also no provision people who are convicted felons to run

Mad Max · October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on October 15, 2014, 01:43:53 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
If a Mexican cartel leader wants to run for US president - let him. It's not like he could win.

>Cartel member runs
>puts a hit on all other candidates
>no one else runs
>wins by default

You can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.

Alternative Facts · October 15, 2014, 01:49:09 PM

Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:46:34 PM

Your point? Remove the requirement for a natural-born citizen to run then you'll have people from Mexico and Russia that are part of criminal organizations running for offices. There's also no provision people who are convicted felons to run

>Implying there aren't American citizens in gangs and criminal organizations

All the natural-born citizen clause is prevent intelligent and rational people who may have been born in a different country (Canada, European Powerhouses, Australia, etc.) from having a chance to run here, even if they've lived here since they were children.

If you honestly believe that removing the requirement would lead to an influx of cartel and mafia members running, and having a shot of winning, you clearly have no idea of the electoral process.

Word Wizard · October 15, 2014, 01:50:12 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PM

You can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.

Their mobster friends will.

Kinder Graham · October 15, 2014, 01:52:44 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on October 15, 2014, 01:43:53 PM

Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
If a Mexican cartel leader wants to run for US president - let him. It's not like he could win.

>Cartel member runs
>puts a hit on all other candidates
>no one else runs
>wins by default
You can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.

To my knowledge, there's no law that prevents a candidate from running unopposed and it happened with Washington and Monroe

big sponge · October 15, 2014, 01:53:59 PM

Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 01:12:22 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 15, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AM
The neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.

Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him.
Wow seriously?

Yep, it also didn't help that he was pro-choice.

So he committed like the three cardinal sins or some shit to them.

-Pro-choice
-Pro-LGBT
-Pro-Green energy

I believe he still regularly writes op-eds for various publications about why America should switch from coal and natural gas to green energy as well.