Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PMYou can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.Their mobster friends will.
You can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:46:34 PMYour point? Remove the requirement for a natural-born citizen to run then you'll have people from Mexico and Russia that are part of criminal organizations running for offices. There's also no provision people who are convicted felons to run>Implying there aren't American citizens in gangs and criminal organizationsAll the natural-born citizen clause is prevent intelligent and rational people who may have been born in a different country (Canada, European Powerhouses, Australia, etc.) from having a chance to run here, even if they've lived here since they were children. If you honestly believe that removing the requirement would lead to an influx of cartel and mafia members running, and having a shot of winning, you clearly have no idea of the electoral process.
Your point? Remove the requirement for a natural-born citizen to run then you'll have people from Mexico and Russia that are part of criminal organizations running for offices. There's also no provision people who are convicted felons to run
Quote from: Sly Instinct on October 15, 2014, 01:50:12 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PMYou can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.Their mobster friends will.So like, 40 people will decide who runs the country? Right. Sure. We'll totally let that fly.
Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 01:49:09 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:46:34 PMYour point? Remove the requirement for a natural-born citizen to run then you'll have people from Mexico and Russia that are part of criminal organizations running for offices. There's also no provision people who are convicted felons to run>Implying there aren't American citizens in gangs and criminal organizationsAll the natural-born citizen clause is prevent intelligent and rational people who may have been born in a different country (Canada, European Powerhouses, Australia, etc.) from having a chance to run here, even if they've lived here since they were children. If you honestly believe that removing the requirement would lead to an influx of cartel and mafia members running, and having a shot of winning, you clearly have no idea of the electoral process.Who's to say an important cartel member isn't intelligent and rational? If they were not then they'd have been arrested and indicted I do know how the electoral process works. I received an A in government class
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:54:17 PMQuote from: Sly Instinct on October 15, 2014, 01:50:12 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 15, 2014, 01:47:15 PMYou can't have a presidential candidate running unopposed. People will not vote for that person.Their mobster friends will.So like, 40 people will decide who runs the country? Right. Sure. We'll totally let that fly.That already exists, just with a few hundred more people
Who's to say an important cartel member isn't intelligent and rational? If they were not then they'd have been arrested and indicted
As directed by the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a natural born citizen of the United States, a resident for 14 years, and 35 years of age or older.
I do know how the electoral process works. I received an A in government class
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 15, 2014, 01:54:21 PMWho's to say an important cartel member isn't intelligent and rational? If they were not then they'd have been arrested and indicted You clearly overestimate their abilities.Plus, allow me to point out the other flaw in this argument: QuoteAs directed by the Constitution, a presidential candidate must be a natural born citizen of the United States, a resident for 14 years, and 35 years of age or older.See that bold and underlined section? Yeah, sorry. Your argument is invalid for a good 20 years. Come back in 2034.QuoteI do know how the electoral process works. I received an A in government classGetting an A in a low level government class hardly qualifies you to actually understand the electoral process in it's depth and complexity.
I don't over-estimate abilities. Rather, their abilities are being under-estimatedBecause there are not Mexican citizens who are part of the cartel and, over 35, and have lived in the U.S for 14 years, huh?
OT: No, you should 100% have to be born here (or our territories) to be president.
Quote from: PSU on October 15, 2014, 03:13:18 PMOT: No, you should 100% have to be born here (or our territories) to be president.Why?
Quote from: IcyWind on October 15, 2014, 03:20:00 PMQuote from: PSU on October 15, 2014, 03:13:18 PMOT: No, you should 100% have to be born here (or our territories) to be president.Why?Cause thats how I feel.I wouldn't want a foreigner as president.
I wouldn't want a foreigner as president.
Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 01:12:22 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on October 15, 2014, 12:37:34 PMQuote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AMThe neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him. Wow seriously?Yep, it also didn't help that he was pro-choice.So he committed like the three cardinal sins or some shit to them.-Pro-choice-Pro-LGBT-Pro-Green energyI believe he still regularly writes op-eds for various publications about why America should switch from coal and natural gas to green energy as well.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 15, 2014, 12:37:34 PMQuote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AMThe neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him. Wow seriously?
Quote from: Naja on October 15, 2014, 10:47:13 AMThe neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.Yes they would. When he first became governor of California they claimed that they were going to repeal that requirement. However when Arny refused to listen to their idiotic plans and wanted to invest in green energy along with allowing gays to marry they turned their backs on him and now despise him.
The neo-cons wouldn't kick up a fuss if Arnie ran for president.
The President of the USA Must be a Natural Born Citizen
