Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaChina is run by a communist party. They aren't real communists, but at least acknowledge the fucking facts.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?China
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?
NopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaOh yeah. That country which isn't fucking socialist. Good point.
Quote from: challengerX on September 18, 2014, 05:00:09 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaChina is run by a communist party. They aren't real communists, but at least acknowledge the fucking facts.China is a Single-Party Socialist nation
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:08:41 PMQuote from: challengerX on September 18, 2014, 05:00:09 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaChina is run by a communist party. They aren't real communists, but at least acknowledge the fucking facts.China is a Single-Party Socialist nationNo. No it isn't. It's "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics". The last refuge of a dogmatically Marxist State which refuses to acknowledge itself as State capitalist.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaIf China was socialist you wouldn't have people running around saying that socialism doesn't work.
YesYes it ishttps://www.nationstates.net/nation=single-party_socialist_state_of_chinaHell, even under Wikipedia it's government is stated as Single-Party Socialismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China
The socialist market economy is the economic model employed by the People's Republic of China. It is based on the dominance of the state-owned sector and an open-market economy, and has its origins in the Chinese economic reforms introduced under Deng Xiaoping. The ideological rationale is that China is in the primary stage of socialism, an early stage within the socialist mode of production, and therefore has to adapt capitalist techniques to thrive. Despite this, the system has widely been cited as a form of state capitalism.[1][2]
The term socialist state (or socialist republic) usually refers to any state that is constitutionally dedicated to the construction of a socialist society.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:13:22 PMQuote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:00:22 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaIf China was socialist you wouldn't have people running around saying that socialism doesn't work.Except China is Socialist and it proves Socialism doesn't workChina is fast becoming the largest economy in the world.
Quote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:00:22 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaIf China was socialist you wouldn't have people running around saying that socialism doesn't work.Except China is Socialist and it proves Socialism doesn't work
Either way, Kinder's attempts are always foolish.
Pollution allows hospitals to create profit off asthma patients. I see no problem.
Quote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:25:46 PMPollution allows hospitals to create profit off asthma patients. I see no problem.I know you're being sardonic but it's so mundane as to be banal.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:12:05 PMYesYes it ishttps://www.nationstates.net/nation=single-party_socialist_state_of_chinaHell, even under Wikipedia it's government is stated as Single-Party Socialismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChinaDo you just read the headlines of newspapers, instead of actually looking at the information properly? QuoteThe socialist market economy is the economic model employed by the People's Republic of China. It is based on the dominance of the state-owned sector and an open-market economy, and has its origins in the Chinese economic reforms introduced under Deng Xiaoping. The ideological rationale is that China is in the primary stage of socialism, an early stage within the socialist mode of production, and therefore has to adapt capitalist techniques to thrive. Despite this, the system has widely been cited as a form of state capitalism.[1][2]Also, if you thought to follow up on the "socialist state" listing, you'd find this definition: QuoteThe term socialist state (or socialist republic) usually refers to any state that is constitutionally dedicated to the construction of a socialist society.You could call a British government with Ed Miliband at the helm a socialist state and probably get away with it. It has no descriptive value when it comes to any economic system.
Notice how I pointed out to GOVERNMENT, not ECONOMY. And China's economy is still a sub-genre of Socialism. Refer to one of my previous postsIt's Socialist. It's sub-form of Socialism can be whatever but it's still Socialist
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:38:24 PMQuote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:19:36 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:13:22 PMQuote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:00:22 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaIf China was socialist you wouldn't have people running around saying that socialism doesn't work.Except China is Socialist and it proves Socialism doesn't workChina is fast becoming the largest economy in the world.the government is becoming the largest economy
Quote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:19:36 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:13:22 PMQuote from: Le Dustin on September 18, 2014, 05:00:22 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:57:16 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on September 18, 2014, 04:54:05 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 04:52:26 PMNopeAnd profiting still happens under socialism. . . What?ChinaIf China was socialist you wouldn't have people running around saying that socialism doesn't work.Except China is Socialist and it proves Socialism doesn't workChina is fast becoming the largest economy in the world.the government is becoming the largest economy
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=gdp%20of%20china
I no longer believe in democracy,
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 18, 2014, 05:41:17 PMNotice how I pointed out to GOVERNMENT, not ECONOMY. And China's economy is still a sub-genre of Socialism. Refer to one of my previous postsIt's Socialist. It's sub-form of Socialism can be whatever but it's still SocialistYou are joking. . . Aren't you? You're not going to make reference to an entire politico-socio-economic system and then tell me you're only talking about the government. The Chinese government can flaunt how socialist it "really is" all it wants, it just isn't true. It doesn't fit into a "sub-genre" of socialism, because it fits none of the proper criteria. It is, as I have said and demonstrated to you, State Capitalist. Like I say, being "constitutionally dedicated" to socialism doesn't necessarily make you some sort of socialist. Just ask Tony Blair.
In this context, socialism has been used to refer to a political movement, a political philosophy and a hypothetical form of society these movements aim to achieve. As a result, in a political context socialism has come to refer to the strategy (for achieving a socialist society) or policies promoted by socialist organisations and socialist political parties; all of which have no connection to socialism as a socioeconomic system.QuoteWhen discussing Socialism, you don't have to refer to both the economic and political ideas, because each has their separate type of meaning when viewed solely in a political or economic capacityChina is Socialist though. Don't feel like arguing any more over it
When discussing Socialism, you don't have to refer to both the economic and political ideas, because each has their separate type of meaning when viewed solely in a political or economic capacityChina is Socialist though. Don't feel like arguing any more over it
The persecution of Jews throughout history is genuinely astonishing
