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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
In fact, I'm not going to vote at all.

Theresa May is going to introduce new measures to ban Universities from allowing extremist speakers on their campuses, and will make schools and prisons legally obligated to stop people from being "radicalised".

On top of this, internet and mobile phone companies will be required to hold more information about customers for the government to access, in order to allow the police to identify who was using a device at a given time.

The new laws will afford the authorities greater ease in seizing passports and stopping people from leaving or returning to the country.

May has admitted she wanted to impose wider restrictions on ISPs, but such efforts were thwarted by the Liberal Democrats.

This seriously damages my respect for the party, and I yet again feel betrayed. I'm sure I'll calm down by tomorrow, and will be able to look at it with a keener eye, but I doubt I'll be much less disparaging.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
On top of this, internet and mobile phone companies will be required to hold more information about customers for the government to access, in order to allow the police to identify who was using a device at a given time.

The new laws will afford the authorities greater ease in seizing passports and stopping people from leaving or returning to the country.

May has admitted she wanted to impose wider restrictions on ISPs, but such efforts were thwarted by the Liberal Democrats.
Save for restrictions on freedom of speech, these are mostly good things.
I'm down with the passports stuff.

The rest is utter bullshit.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
As for the ISP thing, that has to do with the government gaining more control over the internet right?
I wouldn't mind if there was a proper system of judicial discretion prior to the government being able to obtain information. I'm also not comfortable with them knowing who exactly was using a device at what point in time.

Nonetheless, yes, government control over the internet isn't a good thing. ISPs should be able to report any criminal activities they pick up on, but they shouldn't just be handing data over to the government.


 
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Why universities?

At that age you should be old enough to hold whatever opinions you want (plus you aren't exactly a half-wit to get there, not to imply anything else). Too much moderation will just drive the radicalists underground, making any that are potentially dangerous to anybody harder to monitor and prevent if such a situation arose.

Plus the definition of what is radical and what is A-OK is worrying. If I joined a far left society, am I liable to be arrested for radicalism? It may not be the case now, but with such laws in place it doesn't stop those in power in the future from pushing their thumb on parties to be judged "radical".


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Why universities?

At that age you should be old enough to hold whatever opinions you want (plus you aren't exactly a half-wit to get there, not to imply anything else). Too much moderation will just drive the radicalists underground, making any that are potentially dangerous to anybody harder to monitor and prevent if such a situation arose.

Plus the definition of what is radical and what is A-OK is worrying. If I joined a far left society, am I liable to be arrested for radicalism? It may not be the case now, but with such laws in place it doesn't stop those in power in the future from pushing their thumb on parties to be judged "radical".
The entire POINT of these laws is to suppress dissent, man. First you set the precedent with something universally hated, like Nazism and racism. Then you push and push and propagandize until all the naysayers are locked away.

This is why we cannot afford to give a single inch of ground in the realm of free speech and expression. If you give the statists an inch, they will never stop until they have consumed you.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Why universities?

At that age you should be old enough to hold whatever opinions you want (plus you aren't exactly a half-wit to get there, not to imply anything else). Too much moderation will just drive the radicalists underground, making any that are potentially dangerous to anybody harder to monitor and prevent if such a situation arose.

Plus the definition of what is radical and what is A-OK is worrying. If I joined a far left society, am I liable to be arrested for radicalism? It may not be the case now, but with such laws in place it doesn't stop those in power in the future from pushing their thumb on parties to be judged "radical".
The entire POINT of these laws is to suppress dissent, man. First you set the precedent with something universally hated, like Nazism and racism. Then you push and push and propagandize until all the naysayers are locked away.

This is why we cannot afford to give a single inch of ground in the realm of free speech and expression. If you give the statists an inch, they will never stop until they have consumed you.


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Why universities?

At that age you should be old enough to hold whatever opinions you want (plus you aren't exactly a half-wit to get there, not to imply anything else). Too much moderation will just drive the radicalists underground, making any that are potentially dangerous to anybody harder to monitor and prevent if such a situation arose.

Plus the definition of what is radical and what is A-OK is worrying. If I joined a far left society, am I liable to be arrested for radicalism? It may not be the case now, but with such laws in place it doesn't stop those in power in the future from pushing their thumb on parties to be judged "radical".
The entire POINT of these laws is to suppress dissent, man. First you set the precedent with something universally hated, like Nazism and racism. Then you push and push and propagandize until all the naysayers are locked away.

This is why we cannot afford to give a single inch of ground in the realm of free speech and expression. If you give the statists an inch, they will never stop until they have consumed you.

Not exactly, but the abuse of power and public opinion after 9/11 is, quite frankly, not too far from what the Nazis pulled after the Reichstag fire.

I mean, you can call me a tinfoil hatter all you want, but these laws really do open up a path to destruction.


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