Ten policies to save America

 
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It's time for another one of those threads, except this time I thought I'd spice it up. This will not be just a bunch of individual lists of ten policy proposals that we all think would work, allowing us to pat our backs with undeserved satisfaction that we've managed to list ten talking points.

Instead, there will be ten policy spaces in the OP. I will contribute five just to get the ball rolling, but basically your job is to get your policy on the top ten list. Accordingly, I will question and criticise your proposals. I also encourage everybody else to criticise both the original proposals and other users' proposals. If you defend your policy well-enough, it will get a spot in the OP. If you like, you can also just nominate a policy for removal and justify your decision.

They must also be actual policies, not bullshit vagueness like "Transition to a socialist economy".



Policy One: Abolish income and payroll taxes, replacing them with progressive consumption and property taxes.

Policy Two: Transition social security towards private, mandatory and regulated retirement savings accounts.

Policy Three: Increase spending on infrastructure and R&D.

Policy Four: Make it easier for high-skilled immigrants to come, work and live in the U.S.

Policy Five: Incentivise marriage.

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Policy Seven:

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Policy Four: Make it easier for high-skilled immigrants to come, work and live in the U.S.
I don't know if it's just because I'm on a campus with a lot of high skilled immigrants, but isn't it already easy? By all means inform me on the challenges there are please, but is this more a reaction to shit like Trump who want to pointlessly shun large groups of these people because they come from certain regions or are Muslim?

Only thing I can think of myself is perhaps giving the DOJ more authority to be reviewing departments and making judgments. State and local departments have proven pretty inconsistent with internal enforcement so maybe federal intervention will shake them into shape. But I don't know a whole lot about how the DOJ works so fuck if my suggestion means anything.
Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 12:42:00 AM by eggsalad


 
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but isn't it already easy?
Not compared to, say, Canadian procedures. U.S. policy in terms of immigration is more humanitarian, as opposed to economic, prioritising things like the reuniting of divided families over accepting highly-skilled labour. Specifically in terms of universities, it would be beneficial to automatically award foreign STEM graduates with green cards; there are also other potential policies floating around, such as the Dream Act and Startup Act.



 
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I'd hope "decrease military spending" would be the corollary to policy #3.


 
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I'd hope "decrease military spending" would be the corollary to policy #3.
That would depend on whether or not you can find a way to decrease military spending without harming international influence or the ability to emerge successfully from a conflict. The evidence I've seen suggest that we can, but in principle I have no issue with defence spending at ~4pc of GDP. Entitlements are a much bigger fiscal beast that need confronting.


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Don't fix minimum wage


 
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Get rid of gerrymandering

Invest more in education and stop cutting teachers salaries


 
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Get rid of gerrymandering
I haven't seen a significant enough argument on any level which would justify expending political capital to remove gerrymandering.

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Invest more in education and stop cutting teachers salaries
Why spend more money before pursuing structural reforms like giving more autonomy to secondary schools, increasing parental choice and switching to performance-based pay for teachers. All of these things have significant empirical backing, at least as far as my experience with the literature goes.


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Why should marriage be incentivized?

If anything, I think LESS importance should be put on it


 
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Why should marriage be incentivized?
Yo.

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Changes in family structure - notably a doubling of the percent of families headed by a single woman - can account for a 3.7 percentage point increase in poverty rates, more than the entire rise in the poverty rate from 10.7 percent to 12.8 percent since 1980.


 
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U.S. policy in terms of immigration is more humanitarian
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prioritising things like the reuniting of divided families
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I'm saying the priorities are weighted that way; I'm not saying the U.S. is successful in having a particularly humanitarian immigration policy, merely that the way in which it was designed turns the focus away from bringing in high-skilled labour.

Looking at the consequences, U.S. immigration policy is pretty shitty on both economic and humanitarian grounds.


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Policy Three: Increase spending on infrastructure and R&D.

When did you change your mind on infrastructure?


 
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America has no problem breaking up families policy wise.
Heh, ending the War on Drugs was going to be my sixth policy.


 
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Policy Three: Increase spending on infrastructure and R&D.

When did you change your mind on infrastructure?
I wouldn't say I've changed it so much as come to understand it better. I was never opposed to more infrastructure spending per se, and I was always vaguely aware of the shortfall in infrastructure spending at the time. Mainly, it was skepticism of government's ability to pick out infrastructure projects, now the evidence I've seen suggests that we have to try regardless.


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A while ago I made a more comprehensive argument for this, but in short: pooling campaign funding and distributing it equally to candidates with an addition of a percentage extra for the intended candidate. i.e., a company donates $100,000 to Hillary Clinton, and all of that goes to the democratic candidates' funding pool except for some percentage, say 5%, which goes directly to the candidate (so Dems #1 & 2 would get ~$32k, Hillary would get $37k). I don't really see campaign financing as a particularly vital subject for reform, though.

Meaningful healthcare reform should be up there. Regulating insurance costs to address the actual sources of extreme medical costs, revamping malpractice policy, etc.

I also think we need to fully embrace nuclear power. I don't see battery-powered airplanes as feasible in the near future, but cars, trucks, utility vehicles, generators, and general-use power can be completely removed from oil in a relatively short amount of time through the use of nuclear power. It's not cheap or easy to implement, but it absolutely needs to be done, and nobody in politics seems to care about it.


 
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Sounds like Gary Johnson is your candidate, Meta. Spread the word about that tax plan. He likes a proposal that does something like that. 


 
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Why should marriage be incentivized?

If anything, I think LESS importance should be put on it
look at urban black communities.


 
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Sounds like Gary Johnson is your candidate
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Don't fix minimum wage
What?


Like don't make the minimum wage a constant thing make it flexible


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Why should marriage be incentivized?

If anything, I think LESS importance should be put on it
Strengthens family bonding and reduces the prospect of poverty for one thing?

idk about you but I don't think it's a wild coincidence that there's a correlation between single motherhood, abject poverty and crime.
Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 02:43:13 PM by Mordo


 
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Take the religion out of marriage entirely, and give everybody the right to tax breaks with whomever they seek a domestic partnership with. Then maybe I'll give a fuck about marriage.
Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 02:48:57 PM by Verbatim


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Take the religion out of marriage entirely, and give everybody the right to tax breaks with whomever they seek a domestic partnership with. Then maybe I'll give a fuck about marriage.

Religion has nothing to do with marriage, and you can marry whomever you want (except family) and it's already possible to claim housemates as dependents. Sounds like you should give a fuck about marriage.


 
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Religion has nothing to do with marriage
Sadly, most people would disagree.


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Religion has nothing to do with marriage
Sadly, most people would disagree.

I'm talking policy-wise. Obviously I personally ascribe a lot of religious value to marriage, but any religious ceremony or importance I place on marriage is ultimately irrelevant in regards to its place as a civil institution.