Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:49:02 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 03:28:42 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:23:38 PMLikewise, blaming Islam for the Taliban is like blaming Catholicism for the IRA. Except the Taliban quite explicitly identifies as Muslim. In the same way ISIS identifies as a caliphate-founding organisation - hence the name. Yet the Taliban does plenty of shit that Islam prohibits: drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.You're welcome to call it a "glorified mafia ring" if that'll make you feel better, but they are just as pick and choosy with what they want to follow as Catholic extremists are.They have to be picky and choosy. Trying to literally follow scripture absolutely will turn you into a straight-up hypocrite. The problem is that such fundamentals exist to be latched onto in the first place, and doesn't diminish the fact that their beliefs are primarily motivated by their religion. You'll never find a fundamentalist Jain who murders people for his religion.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 03:28:42 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:23:38 PMLikewise, blaming Islam for the Taliban is like blaming Catholicism for the IRA. Except the Taliban quite explicitly identifies as Muslim. In the same way ISIS identifies as a caliphate-founding organisation - hence the name. Yet the Taliban does plenty of shit that Islam prohibits: drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc.You're welcome to call it a "glorified mafia ring" if that'll make you feel better, but they are just as pick and choosy with what they want to follow as Catholic extremists are.
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:23:38 PMLikewise, blaming Islam for the Taliban is like blaming Catholicism for the IRA. Except the Taliban quite explicitly identifies as Muslim. In the same way ISIS identifies as a caliphate-founding organisation - hence the name.
Likewise, blaming Islam for the Taliban is like blaming Catholicism for the IRA.
I see the two of you are not going to convince me otherwise, nor will I convince you.
Quote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:54:58 PMI see the two of you are not going to convince me otherwise, nor will I convince you.That's a bad mindset with which to enter a debate, man. It should be about gathering information and personal knowledge, as much as convincing other people. My goal isn't to dominate you, but to understand how you think.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 16, 2014, 03:57:33 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 16, 2014, 03:54:58 PMI see the two of you are not going to convince me otherwise, nor will I convince you.That's a bad mindset with which to enter a debate, man. It should be about gathering information and personal knowledge, as much as convincing other people. My goal isn't to dominate you, but to understand how you think.Not how I entered this debate. But we are essentially going in circles now on this argument.
Taliban murder over 80 children at school, 126 people killed total.
