Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?
Quote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free will
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.
Extremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."
If people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion.
People are the problem.
But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT MY SIDESWould you suck god's dick to be let in heaven? I mean it's technically a sin but if god wants would it really be a sin?Everything you do is to be let into paradise after death. You're in a death cult.deal with it
Quote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMBut if it is done in love, that is all He wants.Is Jeffrey Dahmer in heaven then? Or John Wilkes Booth?
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 05:51:17 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:52:28 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT MY SIDESWould you suck god's dick to be let in heaven? I mean it's technically a sin but if god wants would it really be a sin?Everything you do is to be let into paradise after death. You're in a death cult.deal with itYou lack the maturity to have a serious conversation. I'll keep that in mind next time.Nah it's just impossible to take people like you seriously.
Quote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:52:28 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT MY SIDESWould you suck god's dick to be let in heaven? I mean it's technically a sin but if god wants would it really be a sin?Everything you do is to be let into paradise after death. You're in a death cult.deal with itYou lack the maturity to have a serious conversation. I'll keep that in mind next time.
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 06:01:35 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 05:52:05 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 05:51:17 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:52:28 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT MY SIDESWould you suck god's dick to be let in heaven? I mean it's technically a sin but if god wants would it really be a sin?Everything you do is to be let into paradise after death. You're in a death cult.deal with itYou lack the maturity to have a serious conversation. I'll keep that in mind next time.Nah it's just impossible to take people like you seriously.And I cannot take you seriously either.Reported for hurting my feelings.
Quote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 05:52:05 PMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 05:51:17 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:52:28 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:44:01 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:42:40 AMQuote from: challengerX on November 22, 2014, 10:42:17 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 22, 2014, 10:28:16 AMQuote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:24:13 AMExtremist: "a person who holds extreme or fanatical political or religious views, especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action."A highly contingent term; again, fundamentalism is better.QuoteIf people want to kill, they will find a reason even without religion. This is self-evidently not true. People use religion as a justification for non-violence - one group, Quakers, even faced persecution for that belief - and thus it must hold that the reverse is true. We see ideologies like Marxist-Leninism, Stalinism, Nazism - et cetera - as the proximate cause of violent action, religion is no different. QuotePeople are the problem.What a facile thing to say. I'd have thought a semi-decent God would communicate ideas in such a way as to not allow his flawed creations to misconstrue them, and then be punished by dint of their own nature. To try and palm it off as "people" being the problem is just hand-waving, since religion was made by people and is operated by people also.muh free willYes indeed.So if you can do whatever the fuck you want, why fear and worship the sky wizard?Is it, perhaps, because you're part of a death cult?What an infantile thing to say.Gratitude man. Gratitude.I was dead in sin, and Christ gave me redemption through His sacrifice, and resurrection.He made me something out of nothing, Everything I can give will never be enough. But if it is done in love, that is all He wants.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP IT MY SIDESWould you suck god's dick to be let in heaven? I mean it's technically a sin but if god wants would it really be a sin?Everything you do is to be let into paradise after death. You're in a death cult.deal with itYou lack the maturity to have a serious conversation. I'll keep that in mind next time.Nah it's just impossible to take people like you seriously.And I cannot take you seriously either.
He made me something out of nothing,
Quote from: Rocketman287 on November 22, 2014, 10:48:13 AMHe made me something out of nothing, Christians are cool with making something out of nothing.But as soon as you try to explain science, 'OMG YOU CAN'T GET SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING'
Study: Religious Extremism is the #1 cause of terrorism
