Quote from: Sandtrap on February 04, 2016, 04:52:40 PMQuote from: Psygnirish on February 04, 2016, 03:15:06 PMQuote from: Ender on February 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PMAlso consider a situation like this:You have a small child, maybe a toddler, and they like to play with the outlet, oven, wires, or whatever dangerous things. Due to their age and inability to understand right from wrong and dangers, they will keep doing these hints. If you sat down and told them to stop, they'll probably still do it due to the fact that they are small child who can't understand much. Sure, maybe taking away their toys or sending them to a corner may work, but do you want to take the chances of your small child accidentally harming himself when you aren't looking? With corporal punishment the child will learn quickly not to do something wrong due to the human's natural fear of pain. It is sad and hard to purposefully harm your child, but sometimes things have to be done for their safety.Don't agree with this. Curiosity doesn't deserve punishment. If I saw a kid trying to stick his finger in an outlet I'd slap his hand out the way or pull them backwards so they couldn't. If they bawl at me because they're not allowed to do what they want, I'll tell them it's dangerous and could kill them. Kid tries again, I'll bat their hand harder and sternly say "NO", then remove them from the area.Or you could just cattle prod them and explain that's what sticking a finger in the electric outlet does.I was thinking the hard way could work, but I don't wanna create irrational fears either.I found out fire is hot the hard way... couldn't look a toaster in the eye for a while.
Quote from: Psygnirish on February 04, 2016, 03:15:06 PMQuote from: Ender on February 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PMAlso consider a situation like this:You have a small child, maybe a toddler, and they like to play with the outlet, oven, wires, or whatever dangerous things. Due to their age and inability to understand right from wrong and dangers, they will keep doing these hints. If you sat down and told them to stop, they'll probably still do it due to the fact that they are small child who can't understand much. Sure, maybe taking away their toys or sending them to a corner may work, but do you want to take the chances of your small child accidentally harming himself when you aren't looking? With corporal punishment the child will learn quickly not to do something wrong due to the human's natural fear of pain. It is sad and hard to purposefully harm your child, but sometimes things have to be done for their safety.Don't agree with this. Curiosity doesn't deserve punishment. If I saw a kid trying to stick his finger in an outlet I'd slap his hand out the way or pull them backwards so they couldn't. If they bawl at me because they're not allowed to do what they want, I'll tell them it's dangerous and could kill them. Kid tries again, I'll bat their hand harder and sternly say "NO", then remove them from the area.Or you could just cattle prod them and explain that's what sticking a finger in the electric outlet does.
Quote from: Ender on February 04, 2016, 02:01:57 PMAlso consider a situation like this:You have a small child, maybe a toddler, and they like to play with the outlet, oven, wires, or whatever dangerous things. Due to their age and inability to understand right from wrong and dangers, they will keep doing these hints. If you sat down and told them to stop, they'll probably still do it due to the fact that they are small child who can't understand much. Sure, maybe taking away their toys or sending them to a corner may work, but do you want to take the chances of your small child accidentally harming himself when you aren't looking? With corporal punishment the child will learn quickly not to do something wrong due to the human's natural fear of pain. It is sad and hard to purposefully harm your child, but sometimes things have to be done for their safety.Don't agree with this. Curiosity doesn't deserve punishment. If I saw a kid trying to stick his finger in an outlet I'd slap his hand out the way or pull them backwards so they couldn't. If they bawl at me because they're not allowed to do what they want, I'll tell them it's dangerous and could kill them. Kid tries again, I'll bat their hand harder and sternly say "NO", then remove them from the area.
Also consider a situation like this:You have a small child, maybe a toddler, and they like to play with the outlet, oven, wires, or whatever dangerous things. Due to their age and inability to understand right from wrong and dangers, they will keep doing these hints. If you sat down and told them to stop, they'll probably still do it due to the fact that they are small child who can't understand much. Sure, maybe taking away their toys or sending them to a corner may work, but do you want to take the chances of your small child accidentally harming himself when you aren't looking? With corporal punishment the child will learn quickly not to do something wrong due to the human's natural fear of pain. It is sad and hard to purposefully harm your child, but sometimes things have to be done for their safety.
Are there studies done on the effects spanking has on children?
Scenario #1:You find out your 16 year old son has been going out to parties and getting drunk. You ground him and tell him hes not allowed out. Its 1AM and you catch him sneaking out. You tell him to go back to bed and you'll talk about this in the morning. He says "fuck you dad, I'm going out". What do you do?
Quote from: PSU on February 04, 2016, 09:13:11 PMScenario #1:You find out your 16 year old son has been going out to parties and getting drunk. You ground him and tell him hes not allowed out. Its 1AM and you catch him sneaking out. You tell him to go back to bed and you'll talk about this in the morning. He says "fuck you dad, I'm going out". What do you do?How about not raise a shitty kid that disrespects me and sneaks around behind my back?
Quote from: Connor on February 04, 2016, 07:19:10 PMAre there studies done on the effects spanking has on children?Oh, tons.Quote from: PSU on February 04, 2016, 09:13:11 PMScenario #1:You find out your 16 year old son has been going out to parties and getting drunk. You ground him and tell him hes not allowed out. Its 1AM and you catch him sneaking out. You tell him to go back to bed and you'll talk about this in the morning. He says "fuck you dad, I'm going out". What do you do?Not raise him to be that person in the first place.If you forced my hand, I'd probably just let him go, and allow him to give himself a little life lesson. He's sixteen. Let him get fucked up, let him get hung over, let him go crazy--then when he comes home all sick, I'll ask him if he learned anything.
Because I can tell you right now--getting hit at that age by my parents during my "rebellious" years?I would run away.Because in my mind, I'm thinking, "What the fuck is he gonna do? Chase me?"
But you would eventually come back. If you're 13-16 and run away, you aren't lasting more than 48 hours.
If you forced my hand, I'd probably just let him go, and allow him to give himself a little life lesson. He's sixteen. Let him get fucked up, let him get hung over, let him go crazy--then when he comes home all sick, I'll ask him if he learned anything.
Quote from: Turkey Sanders on February 04, 2016, 09:23:46 PMQuote from: PSU on February 04, 2016, 09:13:11 PMScenario #1:You find out your 16 year old son has been going out to parties and getting drunk. You ground him and tell him hes not allowed out. Its 1AM and you catch him sneaking out. You tell him to go back to bed and you'll talk about this in the morning. He says "fuck you dad, I'm going out". What do you do?How about not raise a shitty kid that disrespects me and sneaks around behind my back?Hes a teenager, thats what teenagers do, they rebel.
The fact that this thread is still going on is support that you all needed to be hit more as children.
I mean if it's okay to smack kids up a bit when they're wrong then technically as an adult I should have the right to go to anybody who's wrong and beat the ever living shit out of them to teach them a
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 05, 2016, 02:20:08 AMI mean if it's okay to smack kids up a bit when they're wrong then technically as an adult I should have the right to go to anybody who's wrong and beat the ever living shit out of them to teach them a Are you just talking out your ass or do we actually need to go over the different rights, protections, and allowances given to adults and minors?I mean, might as well use that argument to let kids smoke and vote and fuck.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 05, 2016, 06:02:42 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 05, 2016, 02:20:08 AMI mean if it's okay to smack kids up a bit when they're wrong then technically as an adult I should have the right to go to anybody who's wrong and beat the ever living shit out of them to teach them a Are you just talking out your ass or do we actually need to go over the different rights, protections, and allowances given to adults and minors?I mean, might as well use that argument to let kids smoke and vote and fuck.The right not to get beaten would fall under protection.Who do you think needs more protection from physical abuse? A child or an adult?Who do you think is more likely to get severely fucked up by said physical abuse? A child or an adult?
Who said anything about abuse?
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 05, 2016, 06:12:58 AMWho said anything about abuse?Corporal punishment is abuse.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 05, 2016, 06:10:18 AMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 05, 2016, 06:02:42 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 05, 2016, 02:20:08 AMI mean if it's okay to smack kids up a bit when they're wrong then technically as an adult I should have the right to go to anybody who's wrong and beat the ever living shit out of them to teach them a Are you just talking out your ass or do we actually need to go over the different rights, protections, and allowances given to adults and minors?I mean, might as well use that argument to let kids smoke and vote and fuck.The right not to get beaten would fall under protection.Who do you think needs more protection from physical abuse? A child or an adult?Who do you think is more likely to get severely fucked up by said physical abuse? A child or an adult?Who said anything about abuse? We have measures against abuse. CPS gets involved then.
Quote from: Verbatim on February 04, 2016, 12:38:00 PMHey PSU, how does it feel to know that your children secretly resent the fuck out of you?How does it feel to be a loser and know you'll never even have the opportunity to have children?
Hey PSU, how does it feel to know that your children secretly resent the fuck out of you?
Spanking is for the unintelligent
