I don't know about you, but when I was three I sure as hell didn't understand ethics and complex morality.
nah you just gotta give em the old sometimes. Just like any other domesticated mammal of reasonable intelligence.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 03, 2016, 10:02:40 PMI don't know about you, but when I was three I sure as hell didn't understand ethics and complex morality.That's because morality isn't really all that complex.
Quote from: Jocephalopod on February 03, 2016, 10:06:17 PMnah you just gotta give em the old sometimes. Just like any other domesticated mammal of reasonable intelligence.did you ever hit your dog?
It honestly depends on way too many factors to claim something like this.Spanking your kid for doing something very bad (like if your kid is a teenager and they stole or something, they back talked, etc) then it's fine, it helps teaches them consequences.Spanking them if ye did something (like not doing what you told them to do immediately, leaving garbage out, etc) then they don't really deserve it.There's also a foggy line between abuse and spanking, it also depends on multiple things.
Quote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:24:27 PMIt honestly depends on way too many factors to claim something like this.Spanking your kid for doing something very bad (like if your kid is a teenager and they stole or something, they back talked, etc) then it's fine, it helps teaches them consequences.Spanking them if ye did something (like not doing what you told them to do immediately, leaving garbage out, etc) then they don't really deserve it.There's also a foggy line between abuse and spanking, it also depends on multiple things.Should your boss at your job be able to do the same thing for similar reasons?What about teachers?Correct answerIt's always wrong, axiomatically.
Some misbehavior needs to be stopped faster than standard conditioning can achieve sometimes. The thing about kids is, not everything works with every kid all the time.
Last time I checked your boss isn't your legal guardian.
Quote from: eggsalad on February 03, 2016, 10:45:19 PMSome misbehavior needs to be stopped faster than standard conditioning can achieve sometimes. The thing about kids is, not everything works with every kid all the time.So condition them to be resentful, sadistic bastards who solve their problems with violence. Brilliant solution.
Quote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:24:27 PMIt honestly depends on way too many factors to claim something like this.Spanking your kid for doing something very bad (like if your kid is a teenager and they stole or something, they back talked, etc) then it's fine, it helps teaches them consequences.Spanking them if ye did something (like not doing what you told them to do immediately, leaving garbage out, etc) then they don't really deserve it.There's also a foggy line between abuse and spanking, it also depends on multiple things.>spanking a teenagerAt that age, they can actually retaliate. If they don't, it's because the damage has already been done and they're literally scared shitless of you thanks to the beatings or just not physically capable of defending themselves. Laying your hands on a child with the intent to cause pain is absolutely unacceptable.
Normal parents don't spank their kids with the intention to cause pain
Quote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:46:28 PMLast time I checked your boss isn't your legal guardian.So what? What difference does that make?Either way, I think it's hilarious how you use the term "GUARDIAN" to refer to child abusers.
Quote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:49:56 PMNormal parents don't spank their kids with the intention to cause painLOL
Normal parents don't spank their kids with the intention to cause pain, and if they do then it's completely wrong.
Quote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:49:56 PMNormal parents don't spank their kids with the intention to cause pain, and if they do then it's completely wrong.So then why fucking spank them?!
Quote from: Thunder on February 03, 2016, 10:53:33 PMQuote from: Ender on February 03, 2016, 10:49:56 PMNormal parents don't spank their kids with the intention to cause pain, and if they do then it's completely wrong.So then why fucking spank them?!If your kid did something bad and all you do is tell them to stare at a corner for a few minutes then they're fine with doing something bad again, because they're isn't any real consequence.If someone robbed a bank and all you did was give him a time out, I doubt he would avoid robbing a bank again.