Quote from: Meta Cognition on October 02, 2014, 05:30:26 PMQuote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:27:41 PMI know thats the case, though to said certain individuals they just don't realize or care for morality, to them its fine.Then they're wrong. That's all there is to it on my side.My points is, morality exists, just not to all.
Quote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:27:41 PMI know thats the case, though to said certain individuals they just don't realize or care for morality, to them its fine.Then they're wrong. That's all there is to it on my side.
I know thats the case, though to said certain individuals they just don't realize or care for morality, to them its fine.
Quote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:14:22 PMNor right, its merely up for interpretation.And yet there is a clear distinction between actions which depress or appreciate human well-being, when sufficiently separated. We can say with a fair degree of certainty that not removing the eyes of every third child would generally appreciate human well-being more so than removing their eyes.
Nor right, its merely up for interpretation.
Quote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:31:25 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on October 02, 2014, 05:30:26 PMQuote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:27:41 PMI know thats the case, though to said certain individuals they just don't realize or care for morality, to them its fine.Then they're wrong. That's all there is to it on my side.My points is, morality exists, just not to all.You could call that "delusion".
I feel (though open to other ideas) as though our morals change as we become smarter, similar to our understanding of the universe. 100's of years ago things like chemical imbalances in the brain or retardations weren't taken into consideration when determining the punishment for crimes. Today, we better understand these things and do look at them. We also better understand what predisposes people to certain misbehaviors and think about it too. There may be other things we can't grasp as we don't know about them and therefore can't factor them into our decisions. Down the road we may find out about them and it could alter what we think of as moral.
Theres a reason these people are the way they are.
So? You could say exactly the same about any other area of scientific enquiry.
So I guess there are moral facts, but also some grey areas.
Quote from: Yutaka on October 02, 2014, 05:37:07 PMTheres a reason these people are the way they are.Well that's just axiomatic. Things and characteristics don't arise without a reason.
Do moral facts exist?
