Trump's conflicts of interest (UPDATED)

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UPDATE: See yesterday's New York Times piece also covering the issue. Original post is below.

The Guardian ran a piece Saturday about Trump's extensive list of potential conflicts of interest.

(As far as I know, Trump has done less to step back from his businesses than Hillary did to step back from the Clinton Foundation.)

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Since images don't show up in quotes, here's the tweeted image with a list of folks on Trump's transition team:

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Free press-hating """""libertarian""""" billionaire Peter Thiel being on Trump's transition team is perhaps enough cause for concern, considering this is a President-elect who wants to "open up" libel laws. I'll leave these here.

Thiel is also the founder of Palantir, a data-mining company that's one of the biggest defense contractors, and whose primary customer is the US Intelligence Community. Several years ago, Palantir was involved in a plot to smear folks who could hurt their business, specifically WikiLeaks and Glenn Greenwald.
Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 10:17:53 AM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


 
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Free press-hating """""libertarian""""" billionaire Peter Thiel
What's your beef with Thiel?


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Conflicts of interest were a major concern I had with clinton, and while I don't consider friendly relations with foreign governments to be a bad thing, buying into Bank of America is not something I support.


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Free press-hating """""libertarian""""" billionaire Peter Thiel
What's your beef with Thiel?
It's... complicated. It's not just for his vested monetary interest in the decidedly un-Libertarian national surveillance sector, it's about his takedown of Gawker Media and Nick Denton.

Thiel was justified for holding a grudge against Gawker. Just because they can out someone doesn't mean they should, not for any newsworthy purpose but for clicks, especially in a world where being LGBT can be punishable by death. There also wasn't anything necessarily wrong with his involvement in the Hulk Hogan case, as third-party involvement in lawsuits is an important feature of our legal system. Gawker probably deserved it, too.

My issue with Thiel is the way he went about it. He was never forthcoming about his bankrolling the lawsuit, and tried to keep his involvement secret. He wasn't solely attached to the Hogan suit, either, possibly having funded at least a few other suits against the company, some of them ridiculous.

In numerous countries, there exists a 'loser pays' mechanic in the courts--if the plaintiff's lawsuit fails, they must pay the legal fees of the defendant. One benefit cited by proponents of this function is that it discourages frivolous lawsuits unlikely to succeed.

That mechanic doesn't exist in US law. Thiel is estimated to have $2.7 billion in the bank; Gawker somewhere in the ballpark of $200 million. Conceivably, Thiel could fund any number of frivolous lawsuits against Gawker, and still win even if all of them fail, because he could easily outspend and outlast the company; Gawker would collapse under the legal fees alone. Proving frivolity isn't easy, especially when it's a lawsuit crafted by a lawyer, and many defendants just won't bother. It's as if Thiel wanted to remain in the shadows because knew that he was acting unsavory in exploiting a loophole in our legal system.

When he publicly addressed the controversy, Thiel conveniently reframed the issue in such a way that validated his cause, going as far as referring to a proposed 'revenge porn' law as the Gawker Bill, a name he completely made-up. Publishing the tape should have been illegal, but it's plain as day that revenge porn wasn't among Thiel's primary motivations for backing the lawsuit, despite his claims otherwise.

I can't say if Thiel has an agenda. I can't say if he wants to reshape the press. But Gawker was an easy, acceptable target; imagine if another millionaire or billionaire wanted a slice of that pie, and jumped on this particular bandwagon of populism?  Thiel's certainly done his part to lay the groundwork for that.

So when I see Peter Thiel line up behind a candidate--and join his transition team, making Thiel one of the most powerful men in Silicon Valley--who threatens to 'open up' libel laws, and who threatened to sue the New York Times for reporting the factual information of his 1995 tax returns, I see that as cause for concern. He seems to have some big reasons for supporting Trump that would not be in the public's best interests.

(If you don't see why NYT was justified and defensible in publishing the tax returns, see here.)
Last Edit: November 14, 2016, 09:23:38 PM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


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He'll just end up putting his assets in a blind trust for the duration of his presidency. It won't be a big deal.

I wouldn't exactly say his children running his companies is a "blind trust"


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He'll just end up putting his assets in a blind trust for the duration of his presidency. It won't be a big deal.


I wouldn't exactly say his children running his companies is a "blind trust"
Because it isn't. They aren't eligible to do so because they're on his staff.
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He'll just end up putting his assets in a blind trust for the duration of his presidency. It won't be a big deal.


I wouldn't exactly say his children running his companies is a "blind trust"
Because it isn't. They aren't eligible to do so because they're on his staff.
Tell that to Don.
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Mr. Trump has said he will eliminate ethical concerns by turning the management of his company over to his children, an arrangement he has referred to as a blind trust.
Transcript from the debate:
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BARTIROMO: Mr. Trump, your net worth is in the multi-billions of dollars and have an ongoing thriving hotel and real estate business. Are you planning on putting your assets in a blind trust should you become president? With such vast wealth, how difficult will it be for you to disentangle yourself from your business and your money and prioritize America’s interest first?

TRUMP: Well, it’s an interesting question because I’m very proud of my company. As you too know, I know I built a very great company. But if I become president, I couldn’t care less about my company. It’s peanuts.

I want to use that same up here, whatever it may be to make America rich again and to make America great again. I have Ivanka, and Eric and Don sitting there. Run the company kids, have a good time. I’m going to do it for America.

So I would — I would be willing to do that.

BARTIROMO: So you’ll put your assets in a blind trust?

TRUMP: I would put it in a blind trust. Well, I don’t know if it’s a blind trust if Ivanka, Don and Eric run it. If that’s a blind trust, I don’t know. But I would probably have my children run it with my executives and I wouldn’t ever be involved because I wouldn’t care about anything but our country, anything.