So what's going on with Brexit?

 
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So I hear a judge said that MP's had a say in the vote or something? Or that the people who voted no got a victory because of this ruling? Can someone please explain wtf Britain is doing?


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The High Court ruled that Parliament should vote on when to trigger Article 50 and the negotiation process with the EU.

It could potentially result in several bureaucratic delays, but a full overturn of Brexit seems unlikely.


 
 
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Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 05:22:16 AM by Flee


 
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So my gif is pretty accurate then. You're telling me they could actually STAY? Lol.

Thanks though, this is very insightful.


 
 
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So my gif is pretty accurate then. You're telling me they could actually STAY? Lol.

Thanks though, this is very insightful.
In theory, they can stay without this judgment either way. This just gives parliament a say in things. It's unlikely this will result in parliament stopping Brexit altogether, but it should make things more transparent and it's not unthinkable they'll intervene on some things.
Thats good then


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Beneficial for everyone as it's more transparent, bad for Britain as a whole as Scotland and NI are already riled up having majority Remainers winning in these principalities.

Knowing the future plans for leaving means they can decide to say "Fuck that, EU sounds better", and fuck up the parliamentary vote or even go out on their own and rejoin the EU separately.

Could end up with a United Ireland, an Independent Scotland and only Wales and England officially leaving the EU, for better or worse depending on the outcome.
Last Edit: November 07, 2016, 05:03:10 AM by Iontach Gaeilge


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Why do they have to trigger article 50? Why can't they just announce they are leaving the EU tomorrow.


 
 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Why is everybody convinced that transparency with respect to the governments negotiating strategy is a good thing? It will weaken the British position horribly.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Why is everybody convinced that transparency with respect to the governments negotiating strategy is a good thing? It will weaken the British position horribly.

Negotiating trade agreements?  No, obviously showing your hand early in that regard is stupid.

Everything else like Visas, Erasmus programs, joint research programs, hell even involvement in fucking ESA is all going to have to be discussed at one point or another.

This uncertainty in virtually everything involving co-operation with Europe is going to have to be discussed. Knowing what the fuck Britain is actually wanting to keep or remain involved in is better known sooner rather than later so A) People in the UK don't have to worry about their long term plans involving Europe (and can get around the problems if and before they arise) and B) Europe can figure out what the fuck the UK can still contribute to other than independent trade, and plan accordingly (or know that a current EU-UK plan doesn't need a complete reworking).

It's more knowing what the hell this "Brexit is Brexit m8" shite means, as it keeps being thrown around with nothing to base it on and doesn't stabilise the situation at all.

Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 01:52:13 PM by Iontach Gaeilge


 
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They can stay in theory but the plan to move was and has been put in action. It's literally just a "We're waiting on you" situation, one that's already in motion.


The fact that parliament is more or less in charge with when we make a move, and our new PM who is just settled in can take the wheel.

I don't see anything different
Last Edit: November 08, 2016, 05:56:28 AM by True Turquoise