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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
What the fuck? I take Holocaust deniers about as seriously as I take WBC, but prohibiting their speech because it goes against delicate sensibilities? That's quite literally, jewing to the max.


 
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They aren't as bad as they sound cause people just skirt around them easily. It's like how in Germany, it's illegal to display swastikas, so Neo-Nazis just use the 1871 German flag in rallies instead.


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I personally deny the Holocaust.


 
 
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Whether those laws are actually and seriously enforced would be the better question here.
Seems like they just go after loud mouthed individuals to keep their image clean. Otherwise, a lot more people would be in jail.

Still, jail time for denying something happened? What the fuck.
Not as bad as it sounds. There are usually easy ways to simply skirt around it which they just leave open. Like what I mentioned for German Neo-Nazis.


 
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Whether those laws are actually and seriously enforced would be the better question here.
Seems like they just go after loud mouthed individuals to keep their image clean. Otherwise, a lot more people would be in jail.

Still, jail time for denying something happened? What the fuck.
Not as bad as it sounds. There are usually easy ways to simply skirt around it which they just leave open. Like what I mentioned for German Neo-Nazis.
It just shouldn't be a law. That's some Zionist fascism right there.
Almost all of the countries where these anti-Nazi/Holocaust laws were countries who were affected horribly by the Nazis. The Jews weren't the only ones to suffer under Hitler. Most of the ordinary German people and all the people who were occupied by the German Army were suffering greatly under Hitler as well. So you'd understand why they'd be pissed off at the whole Fascism thing. I think that the Holocaust denial is just an extension of the anti-Nazi laws rather than the other way around.


 
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Whether those laws are actually and seriously enforced would be the better question here.
Seems like they just go after loud mouthed individuals to keep their image clean. Otherwise, a lot more people would be in jail.

Still, jail time for denying something happened? What the fuck.
Not as bad as it sounds. There are usually easy ways to simply skirt around it which they just leave open. Like what I mentioned for German Neo-Nazis.
It just shouldn't be a law. That's some Zionist fascism right there.
Almost all of the countries where these anti-Nazi/Holocaust laws were countries who were affected horribly by the Nazis. The Jews weren't the only ones to suffer under Hitler. Most of the ordinary German people and all the people who were occupied by the German Army were suffering greatly under Hitler as well. So you'd understand why they'd be pissed off at the whole Fascism thing. I think that the Holocaust denial is just an extension of the anti-Nazi laws rather than the other way around.
Yeah I know, but they can't just hide that part of their history and act like it didn't happen. That's what I don't like about this.
I'm sure that they are taught about plenty in the countries where these laws are in place.... >.>

I assure you that nobody in those countries are going to forget about the Holocaust and Nazism anytime soon.


 
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I personally deny the Holocaust.
It happened. I had a friend who's grandfather had the number tattoo. You think he put that on there for fun? Made up the story of how he was separated from his kids who were killed in a different camp?

Get the fuck outta here.

There was prisoners. But the "mass killings of Jews" was all propaganda. Tell me something. Why did The Rothchilds fund the Holocaust?


 
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Whether those laws are actually and seriously enforced would be the better question here.
Seems like they just go after loud mouthed individuals to keep their image clean. Otherwise, a lot more people would be in jail.

Still, jail time for denying something happened? What the fuck.
Not as bad as it sounds. There are usually easy ways to simply skirt around it which they just leave open. Like what I mentioned for German Neo-Nazis.
It just shouldn't be a law. That's some Zionist fascism right there.
Almost all of the countries where these anti-Nazi/Holocaust laws were countries who were affected horribly by the Nazis. The Jews weren't the only ones to suffer under Hitler. Most of the ordinary German people and all the people who were occupied by the German Army were suffering greatly under Hitler as well. So you'd understand why they'd be pissed off at the whole Fascism thing. I think that the Holocaust denial is just an extension of the anti-Nazi laws rather than the other way around.
Yeah I know, but they can't just hide that part of their history and act like it didn't happen. That's what I don't like about this.
I'm sure that they are taught about plenty in the countries where these laws are in place.... >.>

I assure you that nobody in those countries are going to forget about the Holocaust and Nazism anytime soon.
I don't know man, looks like they want to try and forget about that part of their history.
The ones who were born during the Nazi era, perhaps. But I've talked to quite a lot of people who were born way after the Nazi era, and they really don't seem interested in forgetting about it (in the way that they've accepted that the past is the past, not the "SIEG HEIL! HITLER IST GOTT DES DEUTSCHEN VOLKS!" sort of way)


 
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I personally deny the Holocaust.
It happened. I had a friend who's grandfather had the number tattoo. You think he put that on there for fun? Made up the story of how he was separated from his kids who were killed in a different camp?

Get the fuck outta here.

There was prisoners. But the "mass killings of Jews" was all propaganda. Tell me something. Why did The Rothchilds fund the Holocaust?
What in the shitting fuck are you talking about? LOL


 
 
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I personally deny the Holocaust.
It happened. I had a friend who's grandfather had the number tattoo. You think he put that on there for fun? Made up the story of how he was separated from his kids who were killed in a different camp?

Get the fuck outta here.

There was prisoners. But the "mass killings of Jews" was all propaganda. Tell me something. Why did The Rothchilds fund the Holocaust?
What in the shitting fuck are you talking about? LOL
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Yeah I know, but they can't just hide that part of their history and act like it didn't happen. That's what I don't like about this.
Well, that's kind of the entire point. They're trying to prevent this from being forgotten and from people stirring up shit. The longer it's been, the easier it becomes to meddle facts with fiction. The point of these laws is to stop right wing groups from instigating hatred and discrimation by systematically trying to deny and pollute the holocaust and its severity.

I guess that this is a very cultural thing though. For example, as opposed to the US, slavery or guns were never much of a thing here, which is why things like the second amendment and some racial stuff is incredibly foreign and strange to us. On the other hand, the US may have been very involved in the second world war, but the country didn't even come close to experiencing what mainland Europe went through, which is why things like these anti-denial laws might make no sense to you but are generally accepted here.
That's true.

But it feels fascistic to throw people in jail for saying something, even if it is as despicable as holocaust denial.
Well, if it was really unpopular there, why don't they just repeal those laws.

There really isn't anything stopping them from repealing that laws should they want to, which is why I'm not outraged by these laws myself. If it were impossible to repeal them, I'd be a lot more concerned over them.


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I personally deny the Holocaust.
It happened. I had a friend who's grandfather had the number tattoo. You think he put that on there for fun? Made up the story of how he was separated from his kids who were killed in a different camp?

Get the fuck outta here.

There was prisoners. But the "mass killings of Jews" was all propaganda. Tell me something. Why did The Rothchilds fund the Holocaust?
What in the shitting fuck are you talking about? LOL
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Yeah I know, but they can't just hide that part of their history and act like it didn't happen. That's what I don't like about this.
Well, that's kind of the entire point. They're trying to prevent this from being forgotten and from people stirring up shit. The longer it's been, the easier it becomes to meddle facts with fiction. The point of these laws is to stop right wing groups from instigating hatred and discrimation by systematically trying to deny and pollute the holocaust and its severity.

I guess that this is a very cultural thing though. For example, as opposed to the US, slavery or guns were never much of a thing here, which is why things like the second amendment and some racial stuff is incredibly foreign and strange to us. On the other hand, the US may have been very involved in the second world war, but the country didn't even come close to experiencing what mainland Europe went through, which is why things like these anti-denial laws might make no sense to you but are generally accepted here.
That's true.

But it feels fascistic to throw people in jail for saying something, even if it is as despicable as holocaust denial.
Well, if it was really unpopular there, why don't they just repeal those laws.

There really isn't anything stopping them from repealing that laws should they want to, which is why I'm not outraged by these laws myself. If it were impossible to repeal them, I'd be a lot more concerned over them.
Like I said, I don't think its enforced all that much.
Which is......

...most likely the case. Or else there'd be a lot more controversy surrounding it in the countries where the law is present.

Minus Israel of course. But it makes the most sense for them.


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Can't prove it happened.