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Orwell's best works were his essays tbh.
Never read them and tbh I don't have much interest for essays I just read stories.

that tbh felt patronizing im sorry i didnt intend i to be
I mean, essays can be stories too you know. Try Shooting an Elephant. Something like three pages long.


 
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Orwell's best works were his essays tbh.
I reread Shooting an Elephant. It's still good.


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Orwell's best works were his essays tbh.
Never read them and tbh I don't have much interest for essays I just read stories.

that tbh felt patronizing im sorry i didnt intend i to be
I mean, essays can be stories too you know. Try Shooting an Elephant. Something like three pages long.
will do once later tonight


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If you don't oppose mass surveilance you're pretty much engaging in cuck mentality. Just saying.
Whatever the fuck that means.

How about this--if mass surveillance was conducted by robots instead of humans, conducting their duties efficiently and objectively, how would you feel about that? Electric eye vs. naked eye.

I don't see how you could oppose that.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Sorry, but fuck privacy. To this day, I still want government cameras everywhere, watching everything and everyone, at all times. That sounds like an excellent idea to me. No criminal, none at all, would ever be able to get away with any sort of crime ever again--it would just be a matter of catching them.

Don't like being watched? Stop breaking the fucking law, then.
You're not breaking the law? Then you have nothing to worry about.
So unjust laws should be followed and not broken?
Yes.

If you don't like the law, change the law.

Don't break the law.
That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.


 
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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law. People aren't overtly treated as subhuman in the first world anymore, except maybe by police, so no one really needs to spark anything that isn't already being sparked.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.


 
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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.
Again--that's why it's not a fair example. Blacks were living in a world where they had no choice. They had to do what they had to do to get their voice heard.

We don't have to do that now. No one does.


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this word has pretty much become the new "fgt"

no one even uses it close to its original meaning anymore


 
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represents the death of masculinity and self-respect
why are you equating these two things lol


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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.
Again--that's why it's not a fair example. Blacks were living in a world where they had no choice. They had to do what they had to do to get their voice heard.

We don't have to do that now. No one does.
We have less choice than ever. Our government is literally owned by businesses. The only way to change things is to defy the law. Nothing will be changed by going through the rigged process.


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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.
I mean, that's not what ended the Jim Crow era; building a case of separate not being equal is what finally overturned it. Examples leading up to the landmark case, Brown v. Board of Education, include Sweatt v. Painter and McLaurin v. Oklahoma State Regents; the large case itself is composed of five separate instances: Davis v. School Board of Prince Edward County, Briggs v. Elliot, Gebhart v. Belton, Bolling v. Sharpe, and the case of the same name.

The protests didn't change the law, but they successfully raised awareness relating to the issue.


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this word has pretty much become the new "fgt"

no one even uses it close to its original meaning anymore
I have always used it consistently.

Statists think they need need big daddy government to watch over them like a cuck thinks he needs a bull to pleasure his woman.

It's an abandonment of personal responsibility and pride in exchange for an easy path through life.
it's kind of hilarious how "life not sucking" is synonymous with "living life easily" to you
it's like for you the absence of these struggles means you'd live pointlessly and without reason
when really someone who's actually a man would be able to find plenty way to utilize that new found time to build great things

youre the cuck


 
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Relying on an external factor to assure your safety is cuckoldry.

This desire to "just let the state handle it" in so many aspects of life represents the death of masculinity and self-respect.
Then hurrah for cuckoldry, I guess.

Fuck "masculinity".

Self-respect? You're pulling shit out of your ass now.
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Is a computerized monitor less likely than a man to be malicious? Sure, I'll acknowledge that.

But you shouldn't want that. You should want to be in charge of your own person, your own safety. Because you can rely on no one if not yourself.
I would still be in charge of my person--I would just be protected. I fail to see what's so wrong about that. Most of what you're saying is just baseless rhetoric rooted in ego desires.


 
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That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.
Again--that's why it's not a fair example. Blacks were living in a world where they had no choice. They had to do what they had to do to get their voice heard.

We don't have to do that now. No one does.
We have less choice than ever. Our government is literally owned by businesses. The only way to change things is to defy the law. Nothing will be changed by going through the rigged process.
Not with that mentality.

Gay marriage.


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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
That's how laws are changed, genius. Look at the civil rights movement.
Not a fair example. We're not living in a world where we can't have an honest discourse about the law anymore. And besides--the brunt of what led to civil rights was due to protests, which are legal. Rosa Parks sparked a conversation--she didn't change the law.
Protests which broke the law. People sat down in places they were prohibited from sitting, walked into whites-only establishments, etc. The bulk of the civil rights movement was people peacefully breaking the law.
Again--that's why it's not a fair example. Blacks were living in a world where they had no choice. They had to do what they had to do to get their voice heard.

We don't have to do that now. No one does.
We have less choice than ever. Our government is literally owned by businesses. The only way to change things is to defy the law. Nothing will be changed by going through the rigged process.
Not with that mentality.

Gay marriage.
In the long run, gay marriage is pretty goddamn unimportant. I'm talking about bigger things, like labeling laws and refusing to stop using heirloom seeds in your farms. Or the fact that in some parts of the world, it's required to genetically modify your crops to make them "safer" before you can sell them on the market.

These are the things that will never be changed with legislation, because they're too important to the corporate rulers. Things like gay marriage are a distraction from the big picture.


 
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Further, life has no meaning.
But to make it better, safer, and more comfortable for future generations. They didn't ask to be here--so we owe it to them to make the world a better place.

Everyone should get an easy walk through life. There is no value in making life more difficult for the sake of it.
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To what end? Of what value is an experience with minimal or no adversity?
None! That's why I'm an anti-natalist. Because even if you solve all the world's problems, life is still aimless and stupid as fuck. I just think a world where everyone's happy and thriving is much preferable to a world where everyone is unhappy or suffering.

The fact that we have to overcome adversity just to eke some meaning out of our lives is sad and undesirable.


 
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Come to think of it, I bet Orwell would have had sympathies for anti-natalism.


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I was forced to read this for my English class during my senior year, and I couldn't get into it. It bored the hell out of me.


 
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I was forced to read this for my English class during my senior year, and I couldn't get into it. It bored the hell out of me.
Yeah. Very dry read.


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I was forced to read this for my English class during my senior year, and I couldn't get into it. It bored the hell out of me.
Yeah. Very dry read.
I felt like I was reading something in black and white, if that makes any sense. Not literally the color of the world that Orwell was trying to portray (Although that is sort of how I felt), but it was just such an uninteresting book. And I get it, the world he lives in is suppose to be devoid of personality, and bleak, but there's a risk involved in writing about an environment like that. Too much focus on it, and the writing itself suffers from the description of the world the book is set in. I feel like Orwell sort of failed to bring life to anything by providing some alternative way of expressing emotion. It was an office cubicle of a novel.


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Sorry, but fuck privacy. To this day, I still want government cameras everywhere, watching everything and everyone, at all times. That sounds like an excellent idea to me. No criminal, none at all, would ever be able to get away with any sort of crime ever again--it would just be a matter of catching them.

Don't like being watched? Stop breaking the fucking law, then.
You're not breaking the law? Then you have nothing to worry about.
So unjust laws should be followed and not broken?
Yes.

If you don't like the law, change the law.

Don't break the law.
I think that's the main point of any democracy. Laws are to be changed by the people and only enacted by the government. If people don't like the laws, then they have the right to change it through popular votes to their local representative.

Unless the people are retarded and don't do shit.


 
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I think that's the main point of any democracy. Laws are to be changed by the people and only enacted by the government. If people don't like the laws, then they have the right to change it through popular votes to their local representative.

Unless the people are retarded and don't do shit.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, the process is very gradual and arduous, because much of the electorate is vastly ignorant. I've thought about having a system where we'd have some form of IQ test in order to vote, but I'm not sure how feasible that would be. Lots of people would probably consider that discriminatory. *shrug*


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this word has pretty much become the new "fgt"

no one even uses it close to its original meaning anymore
I have always used it consistently.

Statists think they need need big daddy government to watch over them like a cuck thinks he needs a bull to pleasure his woman.

It's an abandonment of personal responsibility and pride in exchange for an easy path through life.
dude you're straight up retarded