A U.S. military official on Thursday outlined plans to retake the vital Iraq city of Mosul from Islamic State terrorists as early as April -- an unusual move that swiftly drew criticism that the Pentagon was revealing too much information to the enemy. A senior U.S. Central Command official said the "shaping" for the battle is currently underway, and the Iraqi military hopes to begin operations in the "April, May timeframe." The goal is to retake the city before Ramadan begins on June 17.The official said five Iraqi Army brigades will be used in the fight, as well as several smaller brigades, composing a total force of up to 25,000 Iraqi troops. Three brigades of Kurdish Peshmerga fighters will participate as well. But the details, disclosed at the close of a White House summit on combating violent extremism, raised some concerns. "That is pretty amazing that that information's out there," retired Gen. Jack Keane, former Army vice chief of staff and a Fox News military analyst, said Friday. A current and former military intelligence officer also told Fox News that the decision to publicly announce the plan was counterintuitive because it "telegraphs" the timing and number of units involved. The officers said it would allow Islamic State, also known as ISIS, or ISIL, to prepare for the battle by laying improvised explosive devices.Both officers questioned whether political considerations on the part of the Obama administration factored into the decision to announce the offensive. Keane suggested there should be nothing surprising about the fact that Iraqi forces are looking to retake Mosul before Ramadan. "ISIS is not stupid," he said, adding that their fighters already know that Mosul is the key to any counteroffensive and have likely been preparing for weeks. "This is not something new to ISIS."However, Keane said the details about the force size and other elements were "surprising" to hear. ISIS militants overtook Mosul last June, as the group marched across large sections of Iraq and Syria, sending Iraqi forces fleeing. At this point, officials estimate there are between 1,000 to 2,000 ISIS insurgents in the city of Mosul. Military leaders have been talking about retaking the city for some time, but they have said they won't launch the operation until the Iraqi troops are ready.Included in the force would be a brigade of Iraqi counterterrorism forces who have been trained by U.S. special operations forces. The brigades include roughly 2,000 troops each.The CENTCOM official said the U.S. will provide military support for the operation, including training, air support, intelligence and surveillance. The official said there has been no decision made yet on whether to send in some U.S. ground troops to help call in airstrikes."But by the same token, if they're not ready, if the conditions are not set, if all the equipment they need is not physically there and they (aren't) trained to a degree in which they will be successful, we have not closed the door on continuing to slide that to the right," he said.The official also revealed for the first time that Qatar has agreed to host a training site for coalition forces to train moderate Syrian rebels who would return to Syria to fight the Islamic State forces there. Other sites are in Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia.Fox News' Catherine Herridge and Jennifer Griffin and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
I'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.
Quote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.They've already announced a timeline for pulling out. It's all an effort to appease a war-weary nation that this won't be another drawn-out war in Iraq. Which is nonsense, and publicizing strategy is just silly, but that's what's going down.
Quote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.Holy shit you're so fucking basic.
Quote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:39:51 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:35:14 AMQuote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.They've already announced a timeline for pulling out. It's all an effort to appease a war-weary nation that this won't be another drawn-out war in Iraq. Which is nonsense, and publicizing strategy is just silly, but that's what's going down.Realeasing a strategy to the media is just plain right stupid, it gives the enemy an advantage to what were doing. But i already saw it and for what i saw, it looked like the same strategy as the normandy beach. That is just plain right stupid, why are we sacrificing soldiers, this is probably going to get them killed. If there lucky like the British and the Canadians in Normandy, then that's luck, not strategy. And who ever released this in the media should be arrested for not just releasing a plan for the government, but out right stupid. Good god what happened to America when it was America.This guy has to be a troll.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:35:14 AMQuote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.They've already announced a timeline for pulling out. It's all an effort to appease a war-weary nation that this won't be another drawn-out war in Iraq. Which is nonsense, and publicizing strategy is just silly, but that's what's going down.Realeasing a strategy to the media is just plain right stupid, it gives the enemy an advantage to what were doing. But i already saw it and for what i saw, it looked like the same strategy as the normandy beach. That is just plain right stupid, why are we sacrificing soldiers, this is probably going to get them killed. If there lucky like the British and the Canadians in Normandy, then that's luck, not strategy. And who ever released this in the media should be arrested for not just releasing a plan for the government, but out right stupid. Good god what happened to America when it was America.
Quote from: challengerX on February 20, 2015, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.Holy shit you're so fucking basic.That's because yesterday wasn't my day, now it is.
Quote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:45:38 AMQuote from: challengerX on February 20, 2015, 10:42:08 AMQuote from: Gama I The American Pleb on February 20, 2015, 10:32:46 AMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.Holy shit you're so fucking basic.That's because yesterday wasn't my day, now it is.??
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AMI'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP. this is treason