Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 18, 2015, 07:41:48 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:36:21 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 18, 2015, 07:33:13 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:28:50 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PMSo you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?Unquestionably, yes.QuoteAnd do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think? I mean, if you're willing to assume the reality of an omnipotent being, then I don't think that same being resurrecting a corporeal part of itself is a huge stretch of the imagination.Isn't that blatantly breaking the laws this universe follows, though? Why would God create the laws of physics just to break them later on, if he knows everything that has been and will be?I'm confused; where is death covered in the laws of physics? The laws of motion don't discuss it, nor do the laws of thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, or any other field. Already we're grasping the ways to manipulate the world around us to prolong life, and pull someone back from the brink. It's not unbelievable that if humanity continues to prosper, death may soon become a thing of the past (and by 'soon' I'm speaking in the scope of all of human existence). Whether that's through the 'singularity' or by advanced medicine is only speculation. To think that a being with access to ostensibly infinite information, or even literally in direct control of the entire universe, couldn't do something as simple as resurrect a human body after three days is simply untenable.If you're interested in more of a scientific approach to theology, check out John Polkinghorne. He's an eminent physicist and an Anglican priest that is arguably the leader in bridging the fields of religion and science. For a logic-based orator, check out Ravi Zacharias, one of the foremost theologians alive today.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:36:21 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 18, 2015, 07:33:13 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:28:50 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PMSo you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?Unquestionably, yes.QuoteAnd do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think? I mean, if you're willing to assume the reality of an omnipotent being, then I don't think that same being resurrecting a corporeal part of itself is a huge stretch of the imagination.Isn't that blatantly breaking the laws this universe follows, though? Why would God create the laws of physics just to break them later on, if he knows everything that has been and will be?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 18, 2015, 07:33:13 PMQuote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:28:50 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PMSo you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?Unquestionably, yes.QuoteAnd do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think? I mean, if you're willing to assume the reality of an omnipotent being, then I don't think that same being resurrecting a corporeal part of itself is a huge stretch of the imagination.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 18, 2015, 07:28:50 PMQuote from: Dustin xLilD on January 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PMSo you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?Unquestionably, yes.QuoteAnd do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.How do you explain that though? Somebody literally rising from the dead makes no sense scientifically today, and it's pretty far-fetched to get people to believe, don't you think?
Quote from: Dustin xLilD on January 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PMSo you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?Unquestionably, yes.QuoteAnd do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?If it were figurative then there'd be no Christianity. Something that can't overcome death can hardly be called a deity.
So you're saying the Bible is the most credible of all holy books?
And do you really think Jesus rose from the dead or is that supposed to be figurative?
Well, it might not specifically be a law, but Humans die. The body does not last forever and it can only endure so much, and after that it is used up. I'm just asking, in what logical way could a Human body have survived what Jesus went through, and how could it have come back to life? We know how to resuscitate the body now, but that's only to a certain extent; and I think what Christ went through is beyond what we could fix today. Back then, they didn't even have what we have now, so in what way following the laws of physics could Jesus Christ have come back after death?
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 18, 2015, 08:25:33 PMWell, it might not specifically be a law, but Humans die. The body does not last forever and it can only endure so much, and after that it is used up. I'm just asking, in what logical way could a Human body have survived what Jesus went through, and how could it have come back to life? We know how to resuscitate the body now, but that's only to a certain extent; and I think what Christ went through is beyond what we could fix today. Back then, they didn't even have what we have now, so in what way following the laws of physics could Jesus Christ have come back after death?No clue, I know very little about biology. I'm not sure why you're even looking for an explanation in the realm of our current capabilities, because we've established that we're talking about an omnipotent being that set the known universe in motion.
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I just don't understand what laws you're referring to. There's no universal law that says organisms cannot be brought back to life; a sufficient knowledge of how the body functions and repairs is the only thing that stands in front of our capability to do the very same.
There's no way to know if the laws of physics are static. They could have been different 2000 years ago allowing for these things to happen, who really knows. But we mustn't be too ignorant of our ancestor's wisdom.