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Should there be regulation when it comes to owning firearms?

 
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Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 05:48:28 AM
Quote from: Anglosaxophone on May 01, 2017, 05:21:26 AM
Yes.

Gun culture is the most cancerous thing to come out of burgerland. I would have more respect for gun fags if they just buck up and admit they don't want stringent regulations because they like guns. Trying to use tenuous arguments like "protection" will never work because time and time again unrestricted gun access has proven to make communities less safe, not more.
How is protection a tenuous argument? There are old men who have defended their homes from thugs because they had a pistol. Without that they would've been st their mercy until the police showed up.
I'm not denying there are isolated incidents where having a gun has come in handy, but those incidents could probably be reduced had gun access been restricted to people unfit to actually use firearms. You're actually more likely to be shot by your three year old than you are fending off some rogue attacker.

Nobody is suggesting guns should be banned for people that can respect a weapon, but there clearly needs to be some semblance of effective gun legislation that prevents retards and degenerates from doing the shit they do on a regular basis.
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Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 04:15:40 AM

Imagine, this was in the 90's when gun control wasn't that big of a thing.
I mean... the late 80s saw the Hughes amendment and then the early 90's Clinton's assault weapons ban happened.

 
 
 
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Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on May 01, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 04:15:40 AM

Imagine, this was in the 90's when gun control wasn't that big of a thing.
I mean... the late 80s saw the Hughes amendment and then the early 90's Clinton's assault weapons ban happened.
But wasn't the assault weapons ban after the riots?
Yeah but it wasn't an immediate reaction, you had very strong calls for gun control reforms appearing after the Kennedy assassination and everything just built up from there.

 
 
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you don't need guns if you live in a 1st world country

 
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Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 04:38:09 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2017, 04:22:00 AM
slashX is getting pretty sad to watch
Why should I take you seriously when you literally just said we should live in a police state/dictatorship while opposing trump?
because that would be fucking awesome?

 
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Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 04:38:09 AM
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slashX is getting pretty sad to watch
Why should I take you seriously when you literally just said we should live in a police state/dictatorship while opposing trump?
because that would be fucking awesome?
How? A lot of people oppose drumpf because they see him as a dictatorial figure so that doesn't really follow.
not all dictators are malevolent

 
 
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Quote from: Flee on May 03, 2017, 11:00:44 AM
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Quote from: Alternative Facts on April 30, 2017, 07:41:37 PM
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OT: Yes, of course there should be. For example, those who are mentally handicapped and those previously convicted of felonies shouldn't be allowed to own a gun.
I don't think anybody disputes that.
Somewhat relevant, but Trump very quietly turned back measures put in place by Obama to keep the mentally ill from obtaining firearms. No media coverage, no announcements, just a slight mention at the bottom of a White House press release.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

Go Donald.
There are a whole slew of arguments again legislating gun restrictions for the mentally ill though. First of all, it incorrectly identifies the mentally ill as highly susceptible to violent crimes, which is simply untrue. Second, it provides a barrier to diagnosis for people that are afraid their freedoms will slowly be regulated away just because they seek treatment for their illness; it stigmatizes mental illness as a source of crime. Suicide by firearm is a serious issue, as it's the most successful method, but at what point does the government step aside from baby-proofing the house, if you will? The U.S. and U.K. have comparable suicide rates, so clearly the solution isn't as easy as banning guns. Don't get me wrong, I'm not implying you believe that's the only step that should be taken, but whether gun bans actually decrease suicide rates is highly contested.

 
 
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Quote from: Luciana on April 30, 2017, 11:08:37 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 30, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
Quote from: Luciana on April 30, 2017, 08:29:27 PM
I think there should be some. My limit? If you're gonna get a firearm, you should be required to take a safety course (don't ask me how long) on proper usage, and storage of the gun. Too many times you see incidents where guns are mishandled or stored poorly.
Training and licensing requirements are really just ways to disenfranchise a whole underprivileged socioeconomic class of their right to firearms ownership because of either cost or time barriers, as they may not have the proper times open in their daily schedule because of wage slaving all day or they could lack the means to effectively transport themselves to and from the classes.
Wanna know my rebuttal to that?

If they can do it with voting via ID's which is the same as you described to the same class of people, they can do it with guns.
It costs thousands just to get a license to own a automatic and you have to go though hell in the US just to get a suppressor so the firearm is safer on the ears. I do feel there should be a better control on firearms, but the problem is having it in a way where only the well to do/rich are able to get a license. We all know if there is a license to own a firearm then the far left would have it cost an amount where your underprivileged person wouldn't be able to afford it and the waiting period would be insane.

 
 
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There is no machine gun license. You just get a piece of paper from the ATF saying that they have received your two hundred dollars and you are now legally able to own whatever serialed, registered NFA item you applied for a year and a half ago.

 
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Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2017, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2017, 11:35:07 AM
Quote from: challengerX on May 01, 2017, 04:38:09 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on May 01, 2017, 04:22:00 AM
slashX is getting pretty sad to watch
Why should I take you seriously when you literally just said we should live in a police state/dictatorship while opposing trump?
because that would be fucking awesome?
How? A lot of people oppose drumpf because they see him as a dictatorial figure so that doesn't really follow.
not all dictators are malevolent
HELL YEAH MY BOI JULIUS WAS TEH MAN

 
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Actually I think automatic and semi-auto guns should be heavily regulated, assault weapons in general. Anything with a caliber bigger than your standard handgun should not be readily to be sold to people.

Basically, sell more muskets and Colt Single Action Army revolvers.

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