She didn't win the popular vote anyway. 3 million illegal alien votes. Typical.
Quote from: REMOVE NARCOS on November 22, 2016, 01:13:39 PMIsn't the whole point to prevent sprawling cities like New York and LA from swinging every election in their favour?Seems pretty reasonable IMO.Yeah, now we have fuckhead rural counties swinging the elections in their favor. Brilliant.
Isn't the whole point to prevent sprawling cities like New York and LA from swinging every election in their favour?Seems pretty reasonable IMO.
Obama openly encouraged illegals to vote
Quote from: Ian on November 22, 2016, 01:25:20 PMExplain, what about it is broke? The fact that a republican vote in California means nothing, and a democratic vote in Texas means nothing.The fact that not all votes count as much as each other.
Explain, what about it is broke?
Quote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote."undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.Not watching the video right now, bit please clarify your pronouns. Are you telling me that he said that citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being reported if the family members vote or if the legal citizen votes?
Quote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:26:38 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote."undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 22, 2016, 02:32:42 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.Not watching the video right now, bit please clarify your pronouns. Are you telling me that he said that citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being reported if the family members vote or if the legal citizen votes?Legal citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being deported if they vote. As in the act of voting won't alert anyone to the fact that you have illegal immigrants living with you.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:28:25 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:26:38 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote."undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?Yes, saying "we're not going to punish you if you go out to vote, even though you broke the law and should be deported" Is encouraging illegals to vote. And if you listened to it you'd know they're talking about the voters themselves just as much as they're talking about their families.Fact is, if Russia sent millions of people into America to vote in the election for their preferred candidate, it would be an international incident and we'd be hearing about it for years, but Mexico can do the exact same thing and get it approved of by the incumbent president? the fuck.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:34:35 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 22, 2016, 02:32:42 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote.Not watching the video right now, bit please clarify your pronouns. Are you telling me that he said that citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being reported if the family members vote or if the legal citizen votes?Legal citizens don't have to worry about their illegal family members being deported if they vote. As in the act of voting won't alert anyone to the fact that you have illegal immigrants living with you.The they being the legal citizens?
being deported if they vote.
Quote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:34:53 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:28:25 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:26:38 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote."undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?Yes, saying "we're not going to punish you if you go out to vote, even though you broke the law and should be deported" Is encouraging illegals to vote. And if you listened to it you'd know they're talking about the voters themselves just as much as they're talking about their families.Fact is, if Russia sent millions of people into America to vote in the election for their preferred candidate, it would be an international incident and we'd be hearing about it for years, but Mexico can do the exact same thing and get it approved of by the incumbent president? the fuck.Can you explain why legal citizens should be punished and deported for exercising their right to vote? Because if you aren't talking about legal citizens (the people Obama was encouraging to vote) then you've created your own fantasy here and I'm not exactly interested in talking about whatever fantasy world you've concocted where Obama told illegal aliens to go out and vote.
Wait... you guys actually believe he told illegals to vote? And you are using that heavily edited video to prove it?Snopes already debunked it by showing the full interview.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:39:41 PMbeing deported if they vote.
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:37:50 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:34:53 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:28:25 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:26:38 PMQuote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:24:43 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 22, 2016, 02:18:41 PM Obama openly encouraged illegals to voteDid you actually watch that? He says that legal citizens who have undocumented family don't need to worry about ICE coming for them if they vote."undocumented" that's newspeak for "illegal alien". Their problem isn't that they lack documentation as the term "undocumented" implies, but that they broke the law and flagrantly disregarded America's sovereignty and right to bar entry.So are you going to address the main point here or are you going keep explaining shit that everybody already knows?Yes, saying "we're not going to punish you if you go out to vote, even though you broke the law and should be deported" Is encouraging illegals to vote. And if you listened to it you'd know they're talking about the voters themselves just as much as they're talking about their families.Fact is, if Russia sent millions of people into America to vote in the election for their preferred candidate, it would be an international incident and we'd be hearing about it for years, but Mexico can do the exact same thing and get it approved of by the incumbent president? the fuck.Can you explain why legal citizens should be punished and deported for exercising their right to vote? Because if you aren't talking about legal citizens (the people Obama was encouraging to vote) then you've created your own fantasy here and I'm not exactly interested in talking about whatever fantasy world you've concocted where Obama told illegal aliens to go out and vote.Ignoring your terrible attitude, I actually will make the case that Mexicans, Guatemalans, and other hispanic groups that were given citizenship for the purpose of voting for democrats should be revoked of their status and deported, because they are being used as a weapon to "elect a new people" as the saying goes. They almost exclusively vote democrat, they have very high birthrates, and they use more welfare than they pay for. The only reason they're in the country is to turn red states blue, and make blue states stay that way. This isn't democracy, it's bullshit.
Alright dude, it's clear you've got a narrative to believe and you won't budge an inch from it. If you want to believe Obama was encouraging illegals to vote (which he wasn't) and the democrats are importing Mexicans by the truck load to take control of the country go ahead. I'm not exactly interested in debating a fantasy so I'm done with this line of discussion.
Also everyone is losing their shit about the EC this year as if this has never happened before, it's happened four times beforehand and one time in all our lifetimes (the 2000 election).
Quote from: LC on November 22, 2016, 02:55:27 PMAlright dude, it's clear you've got a narrative to believe and you won't budge an inch from it. If you want to believe Obama was encouraging illegals to vote (which he wasn't) and the democrats are importing Mexicans by the truck load to take control of the country go ahead. I'm not exactly interested in debating a fantasy so I'm done with this line of discussion.Brah you're not even trying. I gave you my honest opinion and I'll happily listen to yours. Don't plug your ears and storm out just because I have things I believe in, I'm no going to do the same to you.
While everything you said is true, I do believe that 2016 has the largest discrepancy between who won the EC vs popular vote. As in, Clinton won the PV by a larger margin than any other candidate in this scenario.
What do you mean by scenario? 1876 had a bigger percentage of a PV discrepancy. Quote from: Icy on November 22, 2016, 03:00:30 PMWhile everything you said is true, I do believe that 2016 has the largest discrepancy between who won the EC vs popular vote. As in, Clinton won the PV by a larger margin than any other candidate in this scenario.
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