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Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:36:31 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:34:41 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PMHow would they get it here? It takes all of two minutes to storm the capitol.Yes taking down the government is as simple as storming the Capitol.Easier than fighting a foreign empire.
Quote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:34:41 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PMHow would they get it here? It takes all of two minutes to storm the capitol.Yes taking down the government is as simple as storming the Capitol.
Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PMHow would they get it here? It takes all of two minutes to storm the capitol.
Quote from: Kinder on November 01, 2014, 11:35:55 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:32:27 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PMNo. Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.That's what militias are for.And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.*looks at the middle-east and north africa*Plenty of other people are doing it perfectly. Unlike other countries, ordinary people have the ability to own and use explosive weaponry so long as they go through the proper paper workDo you really think citizens can get ahold of explosives here as easily as they can in the middle east?
Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:32:27 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PMNo. Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.That's what militias are for.And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.*looks at the middle-east and north africa*Plenty of other people are doing it perfectly. Unlike other countries, ordinary people have the ability to own and use explosive weaponry so long as they go through the proper paper work
Quote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:32:27 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PMNo. Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.That's what militias are for.And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.
Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PMNo. Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.That's what militias are for.
No. Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.
Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:37:36 PMDo you really think citizens can get ahold of explosives here as easily as they can in the middle east?More so, you probably have things around your house to make several explosives. You do realize they are easy to create, correct?
Do you really think citizens can get ahold of explosives here as easily as they can in the middle east?
Quote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 11:39:00 PMQuote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:37:36 PMDo you really think citizens can get ahold of explosives here as easily as they can in the middle east?More so, you probably have things around your house to make several explosives. You do realize they are easy to create, correct?A homemade pipe bomb vs an Abrams tank.Who will win? Hmmmm
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 01, 2014, 10:38:01 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:44:34 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:42:37 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.but it isntPlenty would argue it is.A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.Fucking what?If you actually support the government mass collecting personal data without probable cause or a warrant or if you support the idea the government can detain a person indefinitely through the NDAA then fucking leave this country. Same shit we fought the British over and it will be the same thing we fight over again
Quote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:44:34 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:42:37 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.but it isntPlenty would argue it is.A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.
Quote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:42:37 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.but it isntPlenty would argue it is.
Quote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.but it isnt
Quote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.
Why would we.
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 02, 2014, 05:37:21 AM1)Are you honestly saying government laws don't negatively effect you? Look at the massive waste everything they are involved in has, look at the gangs and prisoners drug and prostitution has created. Look at how often they infringe upon us. 2)The fact is they have NO authority to detain people for life without due process of law. 3)And it HAS happened to many people at Guantanamo. 4)You are clearly not educated at all on this discussion if you actually believe everyone in the military would blindly kill their own people 5)while at the same time the economy is becoming worthless and they are being taken over. 6)A revolution is very possible, and absolutely necessary for the survival of this country and possibly species if we don't stop the way things are going. 7)Not to mention this criminal some people still choose to call president is responsible for the direct deaths of three Americans, two of whom were children. If that's not telling you of the blatant tyranny, nothing will break your cognitive dissonance.
This whole thread is just prime NSA bait.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 02, 2014, 07:05:07 AMThis whole thread is just prime NSA bait.Why do you think I'm dodging around the questions and not being totally anti-government? Obama will enact the NDAA and detain me forever in Guantanamo while dragging my family out in the middle of the night to shoot them in the middle of the streets.
No point in revolting without a clear plan to put the country back together. Look at how most of the Arab Spring went.
Quote from: Kinder on November 01, 2014, 11:06:09 PMQuote from: Nick McIntyre on November 01, 2014, 10:38:01 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:44:34 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:42:37 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PMQuote from: TrussingDoor on November 01, 2014, 07:39:49 PMWhy would we.Government tyranny out of control.but it isntPlenty would argue it is.A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.Fucking what?If you actually support the government mass collecting personal data without probable cause or a warrant or if you support the idea the government can detain a person indefinitely through the NDAA then fucking leave this country. Same shit we fought the British over and it will be the same thing we fight over againI don't, actually, so don't put your words into my mouth. But you and Camnator are thinking about running around like little Cliven Bundies wanting to spill blood, which--given today's military tech compared to the Revolutionary War's--would be a fucking DISASTER. You'd end up blowing at least half the country apart just because you live under an imaginary threat of the NDAA (show me where a person's been detained indefinitely please?). Also the NDAA has been around way before Obama.But if you guys feel like charging with your homemade explosives and store-bought guns against the might of the military, have fun with the drone bombs crashing on your heads.(And just for your information, I'm not against the idea of a revolution, I'm just against the idea of a bloody one. Just look at the fucking TEA Party before the Republicans hijacked it and took over.)
Yes. Anarchy and a period without a government is far better than our current system.#sarcasm
So when the government was Partially shutdown, people were roaming the streets yelling anarchy and making the LA riots look like a walk in the part, huh? State and local governments would still be fully operational
Quote from: Kinder on November 02, 2014, 10:04:29 AMSo when the government was Partially shutdown, people were roaming the streets yelling anarchy and making the LA riots look like a walk in the part, huh? State and local governments would still be fully operationalLet me fix that for you.A total lack of any central would create absolute chaos.