Should The United States of America Revolt?

Camnator · November 01, 2014, 07:39:05 PM

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Camnator · November 01, 2014, 07:40:53 PM

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Oh · November 01, 2014, 07:41:26 PM

Why exactly?

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · November 01, 2014, 07:42:37 PM

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Camnator · November 01, 2014, 07:44:34 PM

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Naru · November 01, 2014, 10:18:06 PM

Not yet, it seems a little too early.

Release · November 01, 2014, 10:29:51 PM

yes because war solves all problems, just look at over 5,000 years of recorded history. Diplomacy is silly and is for candy-assed reasonable people

Dustin · November 01, 2014, 10:31:41 PM

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CND AAA Beef · November 01, 2014, 10:35:41 PM

No point in revolting without a clear plan to put the country back together. Look at how most of the Arab Spring went.

Nick McIntyre · November 01, 2014, 10:38:01 PM

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Why would we.

Government tyranny out of control.
but it isnt

Plenty would argue it is.

A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.

Dustin · November 01, 2014, 10:40:50 PM

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Camnator · November 01, 2014, 10:43:06 PM

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Nick McIntyre · November 01, 2014, 10:54:09 PM

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Why would we.

Government tyranny out of control.
but it isnt

Plenty would argue it is.

A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.

Plenty of passionate and intelligent people agree as well.

The framers of this very country would agree.

Actually they'd be worried why women can vote, why blacks don't count as "three fifths" a person, why gays are allowed to be open, and why the country is ruled by a black man.

Kinder Graham · November 01, 2014, 11:06:09 PM

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Why would we.

Government tyranny out of control.
but it isnt

Plenty would argue it is.

A few backwoods, inbred secessionist retards and their mother's neckbeards don't count as "plenty" out of the millions of Americans.

Fucking what?

If you actually support the government mass collecting personal data without probable cause or a warrant or if you support the idea the government can detain a person indefinitely through the NDAA then fucking leave this country. Same shit we fought the British over and it will be the same thing we fight over again

Camnator · November 01, 2014, 11:07:06 PM

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Camnator · November 01, 2014, 11:09:18 PM

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Kinder Graham · November 01, 2014, 11:10:26 PM

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If you actually support the government mass collecting personal data without probable cause or a warrant or if you support the idea the government can detain a person indefinitely through the NDAA then fucking leave this country. Same shit we fought the British over and it will be the same thing we fight over again

They can actually just murder anyone under the NDAA. They just have to claim you're a "terrorist" which they now consider protesters exercising their freedoms to be. They don't need to give a reason or defend the claim and you lose your citizenship, allowing them to murder you.

And this is why I own guns. I'll take a couple fuckers down with me if the situation ever arises

Dustin · November 01, 2014, 11:24:58 PM

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Septy · November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PM

No.

Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.

Kinder Graham · November 01, 2014, 11:32:04 PM

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No.

Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.

The job of the military is to defend the Constitution, as they swear an oath of such

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

Camnator · November 01, 2014, 11:32:27 PM

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Septy · November 01, 2014, 11:33:41 PM

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No.

Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.

That's what militias are for.

And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.

Camnator · November 01, 2014, 11:34:03 PM

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Kinder Graham · November 01, 2014, 11:35:55 PM

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No.

Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.

That's what militias are for.
And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.

*looks at the middle-east and north africa*

Plenty of other people are doing it perfectly. Unlike other countries, ordinary people have the ability to own and use explosive weaponry so long as they go through the proper paper work

Septy · November 01, 2014, 11:36:31 PM

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How would they get it here? It takes all of two minutes to storm the capitol.

Yes taking down the government is as simple as storming the Capitol.

Septy · November 01, 2014, 11:37:36 PM

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Quote from: Septy on November 01, 2014, 11:26:31 PM
No.

Even if the United States Government did get out of control and abolish the Constitution and Bill of Rights we would still need the support of the Military to start a new revolution.

That's what militias are for.
And militias can't destroy tanks and helicopters if the Military stands by the Government.
*looks at the middle-east and north africa*

Plenty of other people are doing it perfectly. Unlike other countries, ordinary people have the ability to own and use explosive weaponry so long as they go through the proper paper work

Do you really think citizens can get ahold of explosives here as easily as they can in the middle east?

Camnator · November 01, 2014, 11:38:13 PM

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