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UK to start bombing in Syria

 
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It's the main subject in parliament today so I was wondering what the rest of you think?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/12/02/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-britain-idUKKBN0TK4QO20151202
I'm personally against it mainly because there is enough air power attacking ISIS so a couple extra Typhoons really won't do much. Putin has also deployed S-400 AA systems which basically cover more than half of Syria, they cover Raqqa and Aleppo which is basically what the coalition should aiming to help capture.

More support for Kurds and greater efforts for peace negotiations is what should happen imo, Cameron's 70k moderates don't exist, bombing them will further endanger the UK.

Update: MPs vote overwhelmingly in favour of bombing Isis in Syria

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/syria-air-strikes-mps-vote-overwhelmingly-in-favour-of-bombing-isis-in-syria-a6758111.html
Last Edit: December 02, 2015, 04:35:14 PM by gatsby

 
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Yes. I don't see why we shouldn't be pulling our weight here.

 
 
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Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
Yes. I don't see why we shouldn't be pulling our weight here.
Why would we need to 'pull our weight'?

 
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Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
Yes. I don't see why we shouldn't be pulling our weight here.
Why would we need to 'pull our weight'?

An ally of the UK has been attacked multiple times, the UK should help it's ally.

 Besides, we're already bombing in Iraq. I don't really see why extending into syria is a big difference.

 
 
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Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:26:04 AM
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Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
Yes. I don't see why we shouldn't be pulling our weight here.
Why would we need to 'pull our weight'?

An ally of the UK has been attacked multiple times, the UK should help it's ally.

 Besides, we're already bombing in Iraq. I don't really see why extending into syria is a big difference.
There is a difference the Iraq government gave permission for all coalition members to bomb ISIS in Iraq, this is not the case in Syria.

 
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Too many foreign powers with their own interests in mind to think sending another would help the situation. Don't need more casualties of this expanding proxy war.

 
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Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 07:28:55 AM
Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:26:04 AM
Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 07:23:12 AM
Quote from: Bacon on December 02, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
Yes. I don't see why we shouldn't be pulling our weight here.
Why would we need to 'pull our weight'?

An ally of the UK has been attacked multiple times, the UK should help it's ally.

 Besides, we're already bombing in Iraq. I don't really see why extending into syria is a big difference.
There is a difference the Iraq government gave permission for all coalition members to bomb ISIS in Iraq, this is not the case in Syria.

As far as I know (Which isn't much), the syrian government isn't exactly that powerful right now. Or particularly friendly.

I was listening to a bit of the debate on the radio on my way home from college and it seemed to me that they want to also fight the syrian government.

 
 
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If they are going to be bombing ISIS, sure.

If they then want to 'accidentally' bomb the regime, fuck no.

 
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The rest of NATO and Russia has it covered.

Let's not get more countries involved.

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My concern is that ISIS uses these attacks to bolster their cyber-propaganda campaign to recruit more people.

 
 
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Quote from: Dan on December 02, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
My concern is that ISIS uses these attacks to bolster their cyber-propaganda campaign to recruit more people.
They do. They literally want us to bomb them.

 
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Yes, I believe we should strike they are most heavily focused. Although some argue it would put us more at risk of a terror attack, I believe that inactivity puts us in an even worse position.
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Some points made today by MPs, which I am sure many of you will agree is ridiculous.
"ISIS have not lost land with airstrikes". Kobane, Girespi, Hasakeh, Hawl, Tel Hamis, Tel Brak, Suluk, Sarrin etc etc

"The YPG are unwilling, and aren't near Sunni Arab areas". South Hasakeh offensive has liberated hundreds of Arab villages, Kurdish villages in the area were all liberated ages ago.

"No suitable boots on the ground to fight ISIS in Syria." The Syrian Democratic Forces are very suitable, including YPG, and are being armed by the USA.

One MP visited Rojava and the YPG and then decided airstrikes weren't needed. Today, ITV News in UK released a short video where, at the end, YPG commander said British airstrikes would be welcomed.

"The LGBT community in Syria will suffer more if we do airstrikes in Syria." This one just made me laugh and confused.

"Jabhat Al Nusra are in Iraq" Yes that is right, he didn't say Syria, he said Iraq.

One MP referred to the "Free Iraqi Army" instead of the Free Syrian Army, he didn't correct himself.

These people probably couldn't locate Syria on a map yet they're allowed to vote on whether or not to bomb it.

 
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Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 05:55:41 PM

These people probably couldn't locate Syria on a map yet they're allowed to vote on whether or not to bomb it.
So... they represent their constituents then?

 
 
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Quote from: DAS FOTZEZERSTÖRER on December 02, 2015, 05:58:36 PM
Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 05:55:41 PM

These people probably couldn't locate Syria on a map yet they're allowed to vote on whether or not to bomb it.
So... they represent their constituents then?
Yep, this guy represents Birmingham.
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Quote from: gatsby on December 02, 2015, 05:55:41 PM

These people probably couldn't locate Syria on a map yet they're allowed to vote on whether or not to bomb it.
So... they represent their constituents then?
Yep, this guy represents Birmingham.
Spoiler
that's a bloke?

 
 
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Quote from: challengerX on December 02, 2015, 06:22:30 PM
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Fockin hell lad
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What?
You got the fookin quints m8.
Check your post number.

Anyway, I hope the US will become involved in this engagement soon, so after everyone else does all the work, we can take all the credit.

 
 
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