There's a Muslim girl in my school with a sticker on the back of her laptop with the statement: "Free Palestine".

Now, I've dealt with my distaste for Islam and preference of Israel over Hamas before, but those are auxiliary issues in this discussion. What I find interesting is that I find Hamas to be, quite seriously, morally offensive. And yet, had I worn something like a lapel pin or put a sticker on my laptop of the Israeli flag, I know quite seriously that this would've provoked some sort of outrage from her.

No, the issue here is not one of the state of Palestine, but the fact that it's okay to hate Israel. If she had displayed her outrage to me for my hypothetical actions, she wouldn't have been punished by my college and yet, had I done the same for her support of Hamas I most definitely would've been punished.

Now, the girl, being a Muslim, might be "allowed" a higher degree of emotionally connectivity to the issue, but why? Even had she not been a Muslim, it's still more socially favourable to not side with Israel on the matter, and yet why is this?

There are perfectly good reasons to think of both Israel and Hamas as morally reprehensible and yet only one side is emotionally and socially acceptable. It's a similar situations for Nazis and Stalinists - it's merely decorum to hate the Nazis more, and it's surely more frowned upon to be a Nazi over a Stalinist.

I'm not going to say it's explicitly to do with religion, but it's certainly dogma. I'm not entirely sure why, though, rational thinking Muslims think they can express higher degrees of emotional outrage at other people's (potentially) morally offensive opinions, and yet expect none of the same in return. And I'm not sure why a majority of them insist on using the freedom of speech afforded to them to curtail other's freedoms, and yet cry bloody murder whenever they smell a whiff of non-existent persecution.

I'm not sure if I'd quite call it a double standard, if someone was devoutly jewish and supported Israel wholeheartedly with a sticker saying 'Israel is right' (Or something more snappy) then I would expect to see them get pissy about a free palestine sticker >.>

I'm not saying they wouldn't, I'm merely saying it wouldn't be as acceptable as a Muslim getting upset over the issue.

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 28, 2014, 01:47:07 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on November 28, 2014, 01:45:05 PM

I'm not sure if I'd quite call it a double standard, if someone was devoutly jewish and supported Israel wholeheartedly with a sticker saying 'Israel is right' (Or something more snappy) then I would expect to see them get pissy about a free palestine sticker >.>

I'm not saying they wouldn't, I'm merely saying it wouldn't be as acceptable as a Muslim getting upset over the issue.

Perhaps, but the conflict is pretty disproportionately sided. The palestinians are getting blown the fuck to pieces whilst the israelis take less casualties than I have fingers. That doesn't make the palestinians right just because they are being hammered, but still >.>

I thought that, but it still doesn't explain the full story, I don't think.

For instance, my example of Nazis and Stalinists. The latter, at least numerically, were worse than the former - so why is the disequilibrium weighted in the other direction.

And jews do the same, you're just letting your bias get in the way.

And jews do the same, you're just letting your bias get in the way.

You're completely missing the point of the OP. You're letting your bias get in the way - at no point did I even begin to imply Jews don't act in an outraged manner.