Fuck your No True Scotsman bullshit, of course they fucking are, just like WBC are Christians and the Soviets were Communists.

Holy shit this fucking pisses me off. You're not the fucking ideology police, you don't get to decide somebody is not a member of the movement they associate with just because they did some shit that you don't like.

Here's a little fun fact for you: All religions do not share your western, liberal values. Islam does not teach universal peace and love and tolerance, contrary to what some of the more moderate adherents want you to believe.

The only thing I take issue with here is that I wouldn't call Soviets Communists.

What would you call them?

Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on January 03, 2015, 08:42:25 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 03, 2015, 08:34:53 PM

The only thing I take issue with here is that I wouldn't call Soviets Communists.

What would you call them?

Depends on the time-frame and who they were. Leninists, Stalinists, Trotskyists et cetera. Considering the fact that all of these ideologies had some transitory stage prior to Communism (and none of them ever reached Communism, despite ISIS being positively Muslim already) I'm hesitant to call them Communists.

I suppose you're right, although true Communism as described by Marx is unattainable anyway. I suppose calling them Marxists would be more accurate.

It's obvious that ISIL are Islamic, you won't get an argument there from most people. Personally, I find fault in painting extremists as the norm for any group of people, whether they be Muslim or vegan. That's why they are extremists, they take an extreme view of a subject. Why treat them as, in relation to the subject, a perfect example?