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but they're not gonna enjoy it.

Why not? Pretty sure men have the same kind of "pleasure zones" women do in their ass.
Doesn't mean the top would enjoy putting it there, though, nor does it change the fact that stimulation doesn't necessitate enjoyment. Otherwise, rape cases would have happier endings.
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but they're not gonna enjoy it.
Why not? Pretty sure men have the same kind of "pleasure zones" women do in their ass.
Because if they enjoyed it, they wouldn't be straight. That's the whole point. The "pleasure zones" in our ass are irrelevant, because they're not gonna fire off if you aren't gay.

And yeah, even if they were fired off, that doesn't really mean anything, either. Something in your body you have no control over had a response to a stimulus. It's not that you like having shit shoved off your ass--you just like the dopamine you receive from it.

Dopamine is shit.
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Doesn't mean the top would enjoy putting it there, though.

Why wouldn't they? I don't understand this.

There would be a physical reaction to gay sex, that reaction would most likely be pleasurable considering that's the express purpose for the reaction.


 
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Because if they enjoyed it, they wouldn't be straight. That's the whole point. The "pleasure zones" in our ass are irrelevant, because they're not gonna fire off if you aren't gay.

But homosexuality is literally just "attraction to the same sex".

I think Prime's "stimulation" argument is a bit better than "you're gay if you like things up your ass -- fact"


 
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but they're not gonna enjoy it.
Why not? Pretty sure men have the same kind of "pleasure zones" women do in their ass.
That's the whole point. The "pleasure zones" in our ass are irrelevant, because they're not gonna fire off if you aren't gay.

Not necessary true - look at men who are raped by other men. Although they may not be gay, there are many cases where they do experience arousal and/or ejaculation due to the stimulation of the prostate.

Being gay has nothing to do with the prostate.


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If you enjoy same-sex copulation, you're gay. That's really the end of it.

I don't disagree with the heart of what Snake is saying--just the phrasing. There's nothing stopping a purely heteresexual male from having sex with men--but they're not gonna enjoy it. Because they're not gay. They'd have to pretend to be fucking a woman.

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Er, like, I have to disagree. Thinking of something like sex in prisons, it's kind of...  it doesn't sound correct to say that all the felons who have sex with their own gender are essentially gay, as opposed to horny and not controlling their impulses because, well, they're felons. (Never mind that that reasoning can be misconstrued to argue that criminals are homosexuals and vice versa, so just lock them all up.) It seems like an important distinction to make.


 
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This is why I give this system no credence.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Doesn't mean the top would enjoy putting it there, though.

Why wouldn't they? I don't understand this.

There would be a physical reaction to gay sex, that reaction would most likely be pleasurable considering that's the express purpose for the reaction.
Apparently, a good amount of gay porn actors are straight-- this is an advantage in the field exactly because they aren't going to enjoy it as much and thus last longer. It's one thing to show signs of arousal from stimulation, and another to outright enjoy the act. Physical symptoms are because of stimulation, not necessarily enjoyment (of which also manifests symptoms).
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Because if they enjoyed it, they wouldn't be straight. That's the whole point. The "pleasure zones" in our ass are irrelevant, because they're not gonna fire off if you aren't gay.
But homosexuality is literally just "attraction to the same sex".
That is exactly what I am saying. If you like having sex with men, you are gay. That's all I said.


 
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Not necessary true - look at men who are raped by other men. Although they may not be gay, there are many cases where they do experience arousal and/or ejaculation due to the stimulation of the prostate.

Being gay has nothing to do with the prostate.
Except I never said it did.


 
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That is exactly what I am saying. If you like having sex with men, you are gay. That's all I said.

You can have sex with someone you're not attracted to.

It's not entirely impossible to be straight and enjoy dick up your ass, as disgusting as it is.


 
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It's not entirely impossible to be straight and enjoy dick up your ass, as disgusting as it is.
You'd have to really stretch your imagination to enjoy it as a straight man.

Prostate stimulation isn't gay, but if you explicitly enjoy doing it with men, as a male, that's gay.


 
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You'd have to really stretch your imagination to enjoy it as a straight man.

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Prostate stimulation isn't gay, but if you explicitly enjoy doing it with men, as a male, that's gay.

What if you just treat the man's dick as an instrument of pleasure? Completely separate the man from the penis, mentally?


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I don't really understand all the hub-ub here: being gay means you're attracted to the same sex. If you're not attracted to someone, you won't enjoy sex with them; if you're a guy and you're only attracted to men (except for the "I would go gay/straight for x" situations), then you're gay. If you're a girl and you're only attracted the women, you're gay.


 
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If we're talking about a fucking armless male who cannot physically pleasure his own prostate, and the only other person in the universe happens to be a male who is willing to stimulate his prostate for him, then sure. That's not gay.

But that's kinda the most retarded scenario I have ever thought of.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
What if you just treat the man's dick as an instrument of pleasure? Completely separate the man from the penis, mentally?
That's called pegging, or masturbation. Both women and the pleasure-ee himself could do that.
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What if you just treat the man's dick as an instrument of pleasure? Completely separate the man from the penis, mentally?
That's called pegging, or masturbation. Both women and the pleasure-ee himself could do that.

But still enjoyable nonetheless.


 
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If we're talking about a fucking armless male who cannot physically pleasure his own prostate, and the only other person in the universe happens to be a male who is willing to stimulate his prostate for him, then sure. That's not gay.

But that's kinda the most retarded scenario I have ever thought of.

Holy shit lol

this strangely got me hahahaha


 
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If we're talking about a fucking armless male who cannot physically pleasure his own prostate, and the only other person in the universe happens to be a male who is willing to stimulate his prostate for him, then sure. That's not gay.

But that's kinda the most retarded scenario I have ever thought of.
Holy shit lol

this strangely got me hahahaha
well, i mean, jesus christ

is this really a discussion we're having


 
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If you're not attracted to someone, you won't enjoy sex with them

I dunno about that


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
What if you just treat the man's dick as an instrument of pleasure? Completely separate the man from the penis, mentally?
That's called pegging, or masturbation. Both women and the pleasure-ee himself could do that.

But still enjoyable nonetheless.
But only if there's attraction to the one performing the act, or if it's done to one's self. Someone who's gay can have intercourse with the opposite sex, but that doesn't mean that they'd enjoy it.

Attraction is the numero uno for enjoying the sex.


 
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well, i mean, jesus christ

is this really a discussion we're having

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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
If you're not attracted to someone, you won't enjoy sex with them

I dunno about that
I don't see why that isn't the case. Sexual attraction explicitly means that you would like sex with the person; no sexual attraction means no want. No want means no like.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If you're not attracted to someone, you won't enjoy sex with them

I dunno about that
You can ask Roman


 
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If you're not attracted to someone, you won't enjoy sex with them
I dunno about that
how do you not know about that

i mean, the existence of gloryholes kinda proves you right, sure

but you know what people do if they're having sex with someone they don't consider attractive?
or someone they can't see?

they fantasize


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He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.

Stomp me out, I have offended the Emperor with my heresy.


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He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
i mean, the existence of gloryholes kinda proves you right, sure
Kinsey Scale disagrees.


 
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i mean, the existence of gloryholes kinda proves you right, sure
Kinsey Scale disagrees.
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