Another question you could ask is how different would the world be, had Rome fallen to Carthage. I would think government as a whole would be entirely different, along with the language we speak.
Quote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:34:20 PMAnother question you could ask is how different would the world be, had Rome fallen to Carthage. I would think government as a whole would be entirely different, along with the language we speak.German?I can't see Carthage have holding the northern Mediterranean long if they would have taken out Rome in the Punic wars.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 29, 2016, 08:38:52 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:34:20 PMAnother question you could ask is how different would the world be, had Rome fallen to Carthage. I would think government as a whole would be entirely different, along with the language we speak.German?I can't see Carthage have holding the northern Mediterranean long if they would have taken out Rome in the Punic wars.Yeah probably not, but who knows. Those were the two super powers at the time. The ancient Cold War (only hot). If one fell, the other would be the top dog.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 29, 2016, 08:46:45 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:40:36 PMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 29, 2016, 08:38:52 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:34:20 PMAnother question you could ask is how different would the world be, had Rome fallen to Carthage. I would think government as a whole would be entirely different, along with the language we speak.German?I can't see Carthage have holding the northern Mediterranean long if they would have taken out Rome in the Punic wars.Yeah probably not, but who knows. Those were the two super powers at the time. The ancient Cold War (only hot). If one fell, the other would be the top dog.Until the Suebians migrated south and the Visigoths emerged from Gaul... carthago delenda estOur Suebian knots will protect us from the spear chucking elephant riders.It's funny to me that elephants get hyped up as Carthage's big thing when they were only ever a minor presence in the punic wars, and not all that important to Carthaginian strategy.Like, Hannibal was a great tactician, but all he is really remembered for (in popular culture) is getting a bunch of elephants across the Alps.
Quote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:40:36 PMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on February 29, 2016, 08:38:52 PMQuote from: Luciana on February 29, 2016, 08:34:20 PMAnother question you could ask is how different would the world be, had Rome fallen to Carthage. I would think government as a whole would be entirely different, along with the language we speak.German?I can't see Carthage have holding the northern Mediterranean long if they would have taken out Rome in the Punic wars.Yeah probably not, but who knows. Those were the two super powers at the time. The ancient Cold War (only hot). If one fell, the other would be the top dog.Until the Suebians migrated south and the Visigoths emerged from Gaul... carthago delenda estOur Suebian knots will protect us from the spear chucking elephant riders.
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 01, 2016, 12:53:07 AMWell in less than a decade he united all the tribes to march against the NCR. That's something, right?SpoilerWe never covered rome in history for some reason so I'm not as educated on the subject as I ought to be.The best we got was "They changed the religion to Christianity and moved Rome to Constantinople and there was this king named Justinian who had a cool wife. He was a good king and stuff".That was it.
Well in less than a decade he united all the tribes to march against the NCR. That's something, right?SpoilerWe never covered rome in history for some reason so I'm not as educated on the subject as I ought to be.
Quote from: Chief Among Sinners on March 01, 2016, 12:57:59 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on March 01, 2016, 12:53:07 AMWell in less than a decade he united all the tribes to march against the NCR. That's something, right?SpoilerWe never covered rome in history for some reason so I'm not as educated on the subject as I ought to be.The best we got was "They changed the religion to Christianity and moved Rome to Constantinople and there was this king named Justinian who had a cool wife. He was a good king and stuff".That was it.The entirety of my education on Rome from my life boiled down to THESE GUYS R BAD LOOK CRUCIFY! With no real analysis or in-depth study. Same for the Vikings, the Anglo-Saxon stuff and the Wars of the Roses. That last one is kind of ridiculous that we never covered it considering I fucking live in Yorkshire, where the House of YORK was based.But at least I got to learn how bad it was for Britain in WWII because they had to sleep in a subway for a bit. Those fuckers getting tortured and executed in Japan? Nah, they had it easy. Never got a mention because of how bad they like to play it out as london being the most important place in WWII. I believe that's why people never even hear of the Russian Front and are surprised the Russians did most of the work in Europe; because schools love to big up the part about how we were so badly done to. I'm actually pretty sure that my schools were scared of showing us anything that might be constituted as violent because all my history topics were about the glorious industrial revolution and suffragettes and shit. All the boring bits of history, livened only by the promise of Germany between both world wars.So yeah, I have a lot of problems with how my schools (at least) taught history.
Thankfully we did cover Russia from 1905-39 in excessive detail, and germany from versailles to 39 too.So we got to see an awful lot of the causes of the war but bugger all of what actually happened during it, (aside from the 6 gorrilion stuff).
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on March 02, 2016, 02:27:24 PMThankfully we did cover Russia from 1905-39 in excessive detail, and germany from versailles to 39 too.So we got to see an awful lot of the causes of the war but bugger all of what actually happened during it, (aside from the 6 gorrilion stuff).That's how I remember history class being like. They want you to learn the causes of events and then maybe some tragedies or a really simplified explanation of a turning point (hitler invaded Russia in da winter XD, or, da alps killed hannibals elaphants LOL), but actual order of battle, grand strategy, and anything remotely detailed about a campaign is something that's never mentioned.
You normies probably haven't even stood in the exact spot he was murdered, didn't read his most important literary works in the original Latin and pronounce it "cee-sar" or say things like "Mark Antony". Literally plebeian as fuck.Seriously though, he did a lot of things. Gotta be a bit more specific than that.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 02, 2016, 02:34:20 PMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on March 02, 2016, 02:27:24 PMThankfully we did cover Russia from 1905-39 in excessive detail, and germany from versailles to 39 too.So we got to see an awful lot of the causes of the war but bugger all of what actually happened during it, (aside from the 6 gorrilion stuff).That's how I remember history class being like. They want you to learn the causes of events and then maybe some tragedies or a really simplified explanation of a turning point (hitler invaded Russia in da winter XD, or, da alps killed hannibals elaphants LOL), but actual order of battle, grand strategy, and anything remotely detailed about a campaign is something that's never mentioned.Yup, the most we ever did on a military tactic was francis drake spamming fireboats at the spaniards.I learned that from AOE 2 when I was 6.oh and the tortoise formationBloody primary school history was better because they brought in some big scandanavian motherfugger with a huge axe who screamed at us in viking for the day.
psy nothe public school system is responsible for every stupid fucking VIKINGS! myth known to man.
Quote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 02, 2016, 03:17:55 PMpsy nothe public school system is responsible for every stupid fucking VIKINGS! myth known to man.You're telling me vikings didn't have horned helmets?!?!
Quote from: BaconShelf on March 03, 2016, 06:57:00 AMQuote from: DAS B00T 2016 on March 02, 2016, 03:17:55 PMpsy nothe public school system is responsible for every stupid fucking VIKINGS! myth known to man.You're telling me vikings didn't have horned helmets?!?!I'm also telling you that the men sewed and made socks. And that really most Scandinavians weren't Vikings.
Serious History- Do you think Julius Caesar was right in what he did?
