"Well, that was phrased incorrectly..."Clinton: 65,844,610 votesTrump: 62,979,636 votes"...Clinton was our rightful president anyway."
Quote from: Jokes about killing Trump on June 05, 2017, 08:18:08 PM"Well, that was phrased incorrectly..."Clinton: 65,844,610 votesTrump: 62,979,636 votes"...Clinton was our rightful president anyway."hahaha federal bootlickers gtfo, electoral college working as intendedTrump wouldn't even be a problem if libbies weren't so keen on giving more and more powers to the feds
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:56 PMQuote from: Jokes about killing Trump on June 05, 2017, 08:18:08 PM"Well, that was phrased incorrectly..."Clinton: 65,844,610 votesTrump: 62,979,636 votes"...Clinton was our rightful president anyway."hahaha federal bootlickers gtfo, electoral college working as intendedTrump wouldn't even be a problem if libbies weren't so keen on giving more and more powers to the fedsexactly because he wouldn't have been elected
electoral college working as intended
Correct. He never would have been interested in the presidency if it still only held the power that Henry Clay wanted it to be kept at.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:56 PMelectoral college working as intendedIt's actually not. Fundamentally states have made it so the electoral college is null and void in its original purpose. The Founding Fathers intention of it didn't last too long.
>He supports Henry Clay's shitty idealsFuck off John Q. Adams, your corrupt bargain was rightfully squashed in 1828. Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:36:44 PMCorrect. He never would have been interested in the presidency if it still only held the power that Henry Clay wanted it to be kept at.
Piss off, statist.
>The guy supporting the Aristocratic domination by Virginia complains about StatistsO I am laffinQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:50:25 PMPiss off, statist.
Wouldn't it just go to Paul Ryan though?
Quote from: Maverick on June 05, 2017, 09:43:19 PMWouldn't it just go to Paul Ryan though?Technically, I believe Pence would still be named President in that case.
Quote from: Luciana on June 05, 2017, 08:43:21 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:56 PMelectoral college working as intendedIt's actually not. Fundamentally states have made it so the electoral college is null and void in its original purpose. The Founding Fathers intention of it didn't last too long.If you think the electors being able to vote faithlessly was the only reasoning behind the EC you're wrong.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on June 05, 2017, 09:46:03 PMQuote from: Maverick on June 05, 2017, 09:43:19 PMWouldn't it just go to Paul Ryan though?Technically, I believe Pence would still be named President in that case.if what
Quote from: Alternative Facts on June 05, 2017, 09:46:03 PMQuote from: Maverick on June 05, 2017, 09:43:19 PMWouldn't it just go to Paul Ryan though?Technically, I believe Pence would still be named President in that case.But his position would be illegitimate as well wouldn't it?
Quote from: Maverick on June 05, 2017, 09:58:45 PMQuote from: Alternative Facts on June 05, 2017, 09:46:03 PMQuote from: Maverick on June 05, 2017, 09:43:19 PMWouldn't it just go to Paul Ryan though?Technically, I believe Pence would still be named President in that case.But his position would be illegitimate as well wouldn't it?Based on my understanding of that scenario, I don't think so.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:48:40 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 05, 2017, 08:43:21 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:56 PMelectoral college working as intendedIt's actually not. Fundamentally states have made it so the electoral college is null and void in its original purpose. The Founding Fathers intention of it didn't last too long.If you think the electors being able to vote faithlessly was the only reasoning behind the EC you're wrong.That's A reason yes, but that isn't the only reason. At the root of it, the Founding Fathers didn't trust the common citizens to keep up to date with every single thing politically, which is honestly reasonable, since it is not the field they work in. So to counteract this they would have electors who DO specialize in government related things, who always are working in government, and are, in theory, able to see who would be best for the position. It was about as elite as you could get, because they feared what Democracies inevitably fall into sooner or later, and that is mob rule. This was their answer to it.But most states have a penalty for voting against what the people vote, called a faithless elector. Some states it is a felony, others a fine, and some just a piece of writing that says they "strongly advise" you go with what the people vote. It's a concept that is genius in idea, but in no way can work out (LIKE COMMUNISM :DDDDD). Having these penalties directly goes against what the Founding Fathers intended.That's just one of the issues with it (among many). The other big one is self gerrymandering that is clearly showing issues in today's country with voting districts, and the electoral college will not adapt to that, so we will potentially keep seeing skewed results like this last election/Bush v Gore. Though that one has no real data to confirm yet, that's more so a theory.
Russia hacked election results, Clinton is the rightful president (hypothetical)
