Reasons why you're against/for space travel?

Naru · June 04, 2015, 10:21:38 PM

I honestly don't see the downsides to it except the dangers of it. It helps bring knowledge to people and we develop some neat inventions. Apart from human deaths being a possibility and encountering another alien race (which may be hostile, but those chances are so small). I mean, we develop new ways to kill people, why not develop new ways to help people?

Thoughts or opinions on space programs?

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Roam · June 04, 2015, 10:25:16 PM

Pro because it serves to further tech here on Earth

eggsalad · June 04, 2015, 10:26:18 PM

It's getting damn crowded down here.

CK97 · June 04, 2015, 10:39:52 PM

There are people against space travel?

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 10:40:09 PM

Quote from: CK97 on June 04, 2015, 10:39:52 PM

There are people against space travel?

I.

CK97 · June 04, 2015, 10:40:54 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 10:40:09 PM

Quote from: CK97 on June 04, 2015, 10:39:52 PM
There are people against space travel?
I.

Y.

The Lord Ruler · June 04, 2015, 11:04:05 PM

Anyone that's against space travel is against the advancement of humanity.

Turkey · June 04, 2015, 11:09:28 PM

I honestly don't see much hope of humanity ever colonizing other planets, but I still think space travel is the most important technological frontier of our time.

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:10:14 PM

Quote from: CK97 on June 04, 2015, 10:40:54 PM

Y.

What productive purpose could we possibly serve by going into space? Seems like a colossal waste of time and money.

Quote from: The Lord Ruler on June 04, 2015, 11:04:05 PM

Anyone that's against space travel is against the advancement of humanity.

Indeed.

Forgewolf · June 04, 2015, 11:19:05 PM

I am 100% for space travel! Space maybe vast and dark, but it is bountiful of excessive, unused asteroid resources. Resources that are hard to find or do NOT exist on Earth. Resources that could very well help humanity to thrive and expand in space. The only thing that truly stops us, is fear....

Spoiler

And ignorance

Naru · June 04, 2015, 11:21:06 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 10:40:09 PM

Does your opinion on space travel come from an anti-natalist view or a general view?

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:31:20 PM

Quote from: AstroNaru on June 04, 2015, 11:21:06 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
Does your opinion on space travel come from an anti-natalist view or a general view?

Um, both. While I can't disagree necessarily with the idea of space travel for the purpose of harvesting unearthly resources, I'm obviously completely against the terraformation of other planets (which, good luck accomplishing that anyway).

Space travel to the point where we can comfortably and expediently make multiple round trips to other planets is SO far into the future, it's hard to contrive a reality where we could ever feasibly do it, so from my perspective, it seems like a waste of time and money, and we should instead focus on making the most of what we already have here.

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:35:46 PM

As for the hostile aliens, I... don't believe in aliens, really. So there's that.
I'll believe them when I see them.

Our galaxy had a 13,000,000,000 year head start, so you'd think they'd have found us by now.

Forgewolf · June 04, 2015, 11:41:32 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 11:35:46 PM

Our galaxy had a 13,000,000,000 year head start, so you'd think they'd have found us by now.

Our Galaxy is the oldest Galaxy in the known universe?

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:44:51 PM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 04, 2015, 11:41:32 PM

Our Galaxy is the oldest Galaxy in the known universe?

Doubt it. The universe itself has 1 billion years over our galaxy. I'm sure millions of other galaxies have been created within that interim.

Forgewolf · June 04, 2015, 11:49:26 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 11:44:51 PM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 04, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Our Galaxy is the oldest Galaxy in the known universe?
Doubt it. The universe itself has 1 billion years over our galaxy. I'm sure millions of other galaxies have been created within that interim.

Then we need to know more and to know more, we need to explore.

Verbatim · June 04, 2015, 11:49:50 PM

No, we don't.

Kiwicake · June 04, 2015, 11:57:00 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 11:44:51 PM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 04, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Our Galaxy is the oldest Galaxy in the known universe?
Doubt it. The universe itself has 1 billion years over our galaxy. I'm sure millions of other galaxies have been created within that interim.

However stars that would have existed during that time would have been extremely heavier element poor, only consisting of basic light elements, it's unlikely that life could have formed until probably our sun's generation of stars, due to a lack of elements required for planets to even form, or for life to form from those elements

its very possible were one of the first

Forgewolf · June 05, 2015, 12:00:28 AM

Quote from: Fruit on June 04, 2015, 11:57:00 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 11:44:51 PM
Quote from: Forgewolf on June 04, 2015, 11:41:32 PM
Our Galaxy is the oldest Galaxy in the known universe?
Doubt it. The universe itself has 1 billion years over our galaxy. I'm sure millions of other galaxies have been created within that interim.
However stars and planets that would have existed during that time would have been extremely heavier element poor, only consisting of basic light elements, it's unlikely that life could have formed until probably our sun's generation of stars

its very possible were one of the first

Its equally possible that life does live elsewhere, but breathes, eats, moves, thinks and reacts differently than we do.

Verbatim · June 05, 2015, 12:01:43 AM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 05, 2015, 12:00:28 AM

Its equally possible that life does live elsewhere

what are you basing this apparent likeliness on

Forgewolf · June 05, 2015, 12:10:59 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2015, 12:01:43 AM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 05, 2015, 12:00:28 AM
Its equally possible that life does live elsewhere
what are you basing this apparent likeliness on

From the lack of exploration of course. No one can comfortably and confidently say (without a shred of doubt) that all potential life in the Universe has to be or will be the same as it is on Earth once its discovered.

Sandtrap · June 05, 2015, 12:47:21 AM

For it. But not really.

I think, at best, we'll only ever play skipping stones across water in our solar backyard. At a heavy cost, mind you. Lightspeed, on this particular aspect of the universe, is the physical barrier and speed limit.

And it's fucking painfully slow anywhere beyond our solar system. Traveling beyond our solar sytem and spreading like seeds to other planets and systems?

Setting the bar way too fucking high, way too early.

Find out how to harvest asteroids first. More resources for home, without having to fuck up home.

Jono · June 05, 2015, 12:54:47 AM

Earth isn't going to last forever and we need to get out there and colonize before its too late.

Deleted · June 05, 2015, 03:25:15 AM

I'd love to explore space, especialy to avoid not having to have people fucking melt to death on a 10 Billion year old rock

'Edgy' oppinion

Assuming of course God gives us that long and we havn't already glassed ourselves

Verbatim · June 05, 2015, 03:53:14 AM

Quote from: Forgewolf on June 05, 2015, 12:10:59 AM

From the lack of exploration of course.

that doesn't make it likely

Mordo · June 05, 2015, 05:17:39 AM

Love TARS, love.

Mattie G Indahouse · June 05, 2015, 05:18:12 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 04, 2015, 11:35:46 PM

Our galaxy had a 13,000,000,000 year head start, so you'd think they'd have found us by now.

Even though humanity has existed for tens of thousands of years the people over in Europe discovered North America some hundreds of years ago. Then when it comes to our moon which has been up there for billions of years some decades ago we walked on it. When it comes to our own planet we know more about space then what we do at the bottom of the ocean. The point is that if there is life out there they would be hindered by distance or technology.

Mattie G Indahouse · June 05, 2015, 05:28:31 AM

Quote from: AstroNaru on June 04, 2015, 10:21:38 PM

Thoughts or opinions on space programs?

Planet wise it would make traveling easier since you can just go into space and then drop down on the location you're heading to. When it comes to resources we need it to do space mining. We have a lot of water but we don't have the tech to make it and it's the same for metal. Eventually we will get limited down on the metal we have so we need other sources to mine it from. For information being able to go to other planets would increase our knowledge about or galaxy, the universe and maybe life itself if we find it.

Incan · June 05, 2015, 06:09:46 AM

It's not something we should be spending huge on right now, but we should be spending in some manner. It's important, Earth isn't going to last forever.