Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Race is an indicator of certain physical, heredity traits, no? Perception of races could be social, sure, but races are natural.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Race is an indicator of certain physical, heredity traits, no?

it actually isn't
like, at all

(i actually just learned about this in my sociology class)

there were a bunch of students of all sorts of races who took a DNA test, which involved blood samples
and all of their results matched almost entirely

Yeah, humans have significantly less genetic diversity among themselves than other species do.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

Because the brazilians were smart. They took out the troublesome ones. They controlled the gene pool. They wouldn't have let Malcom X live.

lolwut? There's so much stupid in that statement that it's nearly off the charts.

Please tell me how a country of 150 million could possibly effectively root out "the troublesome ones" from a population of 50 million. And not to mention the logistical problems with doing such a thing. Anyways, that statement is made out of pure, refined stupid.

found it
it's called Race: The Power of an Illusion, and it's actually a three part series (we only saw part 1)

i felt like it produced a rather compelling case--especially with regards to the genetic argument
there is basically nothing in our DNA that would identify someone as "black" or "white"

it's melanin in your skin, and that's all it is

New evidence is emerging to suggest there is in fact a biological basis for race though. We've only just started mapping the human genome which takes an astronomical amount of computational power to process, so to affirm the notion that race is purely a social construct when we've barely even begun to understand genetics is simply fallacious and unscientific.

It goes without saying that racism and discrimination are wrong as a matter of principle of course, but that doesn't mean we should disregard empirical evidence for the sake of political correctness.

New evidence is emerging to suggest there is in fact a biological basis for race though. We've only just started mapping the human genome which takes an astronomical amount of computational power to process, so to affirm the notion that race is purely a social construct when we've barely even begun to understand genetics is simply fallacious and unscientific.

It goes without saying that racism and discrimination are wrong as a matter of principle of course, but that doesn't mean we should disregard empirical evidence for the sake of political correctness.

I'm not saying that race is entirely a social construct, but my argument is that a significant portion of "race" is indeed a social construct.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

Because the brazilians were smart. They took out the troublesome ones. They controlled the gene pool. They wouldn't have let Malcom X live.

lolwut? There's so much stupid in that statement that it's nearly off the charts.

Please tell me how a country of 150 million could possibly effectively root out "the troublesome ones" from a population of 50 million. And not to mention the logistical problems with doing such a thing. Anyways, that statement is made out of pure, refined stupid.

The evidence is there. If you chose to believe otherwise, then I respect your decision.

Oh, please show me this "evidence".

I've already show you.

Here is a supplemental flyer though.

The wild claims that Arabs keep black in check and that Brazil led a campaign to root out all "problematic" black people without posting any sources proving that those claims are true?

That's not evidence, that's crap that conspiracy sites like to post. LOL

Observe social standings and social engineering and you'll note.

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilized nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the Whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men. - Hume - of National Character, 1748
"In the hot countries the human being matures in all aspects earlier, but does not, however, reach the perfection of those in the temperate zones. Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites. The yellow Indians do have a meager talent. The Negroes are far below them and at the lowest point are a part of the American peoples." - Kant - Physical Geography, 1756

What has changed since those times other than the now Americanized spelling of valor?

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

Because the brazilians were smart. They took out the troublesome ones. They controlled the gene pool. They wouldn't have let Malcom X live.

lolwut? There's so much stupid in that statement that it's nearly off the charts.

Please tell me how a country of 150 million could possibly effectively root out "the troublesome ones" from a population of 50 million. And not to mention the logistical problems with doing such a thing. Anyways, that statement is made out of pure, refined stupid.

The evidence is there. If you chose to believe otherwise, then I respect your decision.

Oh, please show me this "evidence".

I've already show you.

Here is a supplemental flyer though.

The wild claims that Arabs keep black in check and that Brazil led a campaign to root out all "problematic" black people without posting any sources proving that those claims are true?

That's not evidence, that's crap that conspiracy sites like to post. LOL

Observe social standings and social engineering and you'll note.

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilized nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the Whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men. - Hume - of National Character, 1748
"In the hot countries the human being matures in all aspects earlier, but does not, however, reach the perfection of those in the temperate zones. Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites. The yellow Indians do have a meager talent. The Negroes are far below them and at the lowest point are a part of the American peoples." - Kant - Physical Geography, 1756

What has changed since those times other than the now Americanized spelling of valor?

>citing books about black-white comparisons from the 18th Century as if they were legitimate



Here's an example of another massive crock of BS that was taken seriously by racial theorists at the time, and this was from the 19th and 20th Centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

Because the brazilians were smart. They took out the troublesome ones. They controlled the gene pool. They wouldn't have let Malcom X live.

lolwut? There's so much stupid in that statement that it's nearly off the charts.

Please tell me how a country of 150 million could possibly effectively root out "the troublesome ones" from a population of 50 million. And not to mention the logistical problems with doing such a thing. Anyways, that statement is made out of pure, refined stupid.

The evidence is there. If you chose to believe otherwise, then I respect your decision.

Oh, please show me this "evidence".

I've already show you.

Here is a supplemental flyer though.

The wild claims that Arabs keep black in check and that Brazil led a campaign to root out all "problematic" black people without posting any sources proving that those claims are true?

That's not evidence, that's crap that conspiracy sites like to post. LOL

Observe social standings and social engineering and you'll note.

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilized nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the Whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men. - Hume - of National Character, 1748
"In the hot countries the human being matures in all aspects earlier, but does not, however, reach the perfection of those in the temperate zones. Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites. The yellow Indians do have a meager talent. The Negroes are far below them and at the lowest point are a part of the American peoples." - Kant - Physical Geography, 1756

What has changed since those times other than the now Americanized spelling of valor?

>citing books about black-white comparisons from the 18th Century as if they were legitimate



Here's an example of another massive crock of BS that was taken seriously by racial theorists at the time, and this was from the 19th and 20th Centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

Except the philosophies of Kant, Hume, Schopenhauer, and the like have stood the test of time while the Pittdown man was quite scientifically debunked.

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Nah, I'm more inclined to believe that hoodlum shenanigans are in ones DNA.

Which can clearly explain how blacks in the US are significantly more rowdy than blacks in Europe, Africa, or Latin America.

#logic

Because in Europe the Muslims are keeping them in order.
In America, we don't have the Islamic population for that.

What you said right there was a social condition. So you pretty much explained in your own post that the behavior of black people here is due to social conditions rather than racial whateverism.

It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around.

Even if that were the case, which it isn't, you haven't said anything about Latin America and Africa. Which aside from northern Africa (which is already Arab-majority), there aren't any Arabs around to "hold" the blacks back.

And again, what you said made no sense.  "It's in their genes to go wild when machete wielding nutjobs screaming Allahu Ackbar aren't around." is so arbitrary and stupid and is just an uneducated assumption at best.

Because they were bred with the Spaniards and natives. Domestic bovine are tempered nothing like their wild European ancestors.

Not really. The conditions faced by blacks in Latin America are nearly the same faced by blacks in the US. As in being transported in slave ships. And look at how different outcomes the two groups had. And no, blacks weren't really bred with Spaniards and natives on any significant scale. A full 33% percent of Brazil's population is completely black, and yet they don't really have problems there like how the blacks here have problems.

Because the brazilians were smart. They took out the troublesome ones. They controlled the gene pool. They wouldn't have let Malcom X live.

lolwut? There's so much stupid in that statement that it's nearly off the charts.

Please tell me how a country of 150 million could possibly effectively root out "the troublesome ones" from a population of 50 million. And not to mention the logistical problems with doing such a thing. Anyways, that statement is made out of pure, refined stupid.

The evidence is there. If you chose to believe otherwise, then I respect your decision.

Oh, please show me this "evidence".

I've already show you.

Here is a supplemental flyer though.

The wild claims that Arabs keep black in check and that Brazil led a campaign to root out all "problematic" black people without posting any sources proving that those claims are true?

That's not evidence, that's crap that conspiracy sites like to post. LOL

Observe social standings and social engineering and you'll note.

"I am apt to suspect the Negroes to be naturally inferior to the Whites. There scarcely ever was a civilized nation of that complexion, nor even any individual, eminent either in action or speculation. No ingenious manufactures amongst them, no arts, no sciences. On the other hand, the most rude and barbarous of the Whites, such as the ancient Germans, the present Tartars, have still something eminent about them, in their valour, form of government, or some other particular. Such a uniform and constant difference could not happen, in so many countries and ages, if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men. - Hume - of National Character, 1748
"In the hot countries the human being matures in all aspects earlier, but does not, however, reach the perfection of those in the temperate zones. Humanity is at its greatest perfection in the race of the whites. The yellow Indians do have a meager talent. The Negroes are far below them and at the lowest point are a part of the American peoples." - Kant - Physical Geography, 1756

What has changed since those times other than the now Americanized spelling of valor?

>citing books about black-white comparisons from the 18th Century as if they were legitimate



Here's an example of another massive crock of BS that was taken seriously by racial theorists at the time, and this was from the 19th and 20th Centuries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man

Except the philosophies of Kant, Hume, Schopenhauer, and the like have stood the test of time while the Pittdown man was quite scientifically debunked.

And there's not a single chance that all of those claims that anyone other than whites aren't human were made solely to justify colonial domination and enslavement? There's no empirical evidence whatsoever suggesting that blacks, Arabs, or whatever aren't human aside from crap made by fringe sources.

Who ever said that they're not human? They are. They're simply lesser humans.