Why do some men want to see the world burn?

Because they don't like tangerines.

Why do we fear death?

For the immediate panic and reaction to a grisly fate?
I would be inclined to think that's to do with simple biological programming.

If you look at the basic impulses of a life-form, avoidance of injury (pain) is a pretty strong command signal. Sticking your hand on a radiator that is too hot results in you moving away and probably swearing before you've had time to think.

For the more existential stuff?
Egh that's pretty open ended.

You could look at the effects of consciousness, how a person enjoys living and dislikes the cessation of enjoyment (Skinnerites) or from a more cognitive standpoint.

Fear of the unknown, fear of not finishing what you wanted to complete, fear of causing pain to loved ones. There are lots of ways to look at why we fear death and I think it will vary greatly from person to person.

I would fear death because it's the end of my usefulness on this planet, I'll quite probably die thinking that I could have done more to help others and that will suck shit through a straw.

That might be quite different from someone who fears death because they love the baser things in life (money, cars, nightclubs etc) and they don't want the party to stop.

Have you done any therapy yet?

As a practitioner? Not yet
As a patient? Extensively

If so what was your weirdest experience so far?

The moment of bizarre amusement as I sat in a family therapy session wondering how this eejit got to be qualified. This eejit being the psychologist running the session, If I wasn't so irritated by the atrocious way he handled my younger brothers I probably would have been laughing in his face that day.

Ask the question again in a couple of years and I might have some fun stories to tell from the perspective I think you were hoping for

Is sociopathy, psychopathy and ASPD  the same thing? I seem to be getting conflicting answers on this one.

Yes, No, Maybe, I don't know.

The trouble with psychology is that you can use any number of different terms to refer to the same condition.
MDD, MD, Clinical Depression, Severe Depression etc are all the same condition.

With Socio/Psycho/ASPD it's a tricky one. The way I have it pinned in my head, which is by no means definitive but there is no definitive answer here soooo

Sociopath - Someone who exhibits the traits as a result of abuse in early childhood (i.e Socially made)
Psychopath - Someone who exhibits the traits from an early age, without a history of abuse  (i.e genetically made 'the warrior gene')
ASPD - the mincing fluffy way of diagnosing someone as a psychopath without the same level of stigma because the idiots who take a diagnosis of psychopathy and run to the press screaming tall tales of serial killers tend to be below the cognitive ability to pay attention to the term 'Antisocial Personality Disorder'
or to put it in a better light, it is the DSM's way of writing psychopathy as they believe it fits in better as a form of personality disorder rather than as a standalone clinical diagnosis. (I don't really agree here)

Are you going for a PhD?

Yes and No

Depending on your country it might be written as ClinPsyD or PsyD or PhD but it's all the same thing, just different ways of writing out 'Doctor of Clinical Psychology'

so yes

eventually

How much do you know about cognitive distortions?

I'm afraid this might need a bit more elaboration, the term doesn't quite fit into a category but I'm farily sure I know a bit about any of the possibilities.

Do you mean someone who holds FUBAR cognitive schemas that result in distorted patterns of thinking?
or someone who holds delusions at the cognitive level?

Also how much do you know of CBT? (Cognitive Behavior Therapy)

A fair bit, from the theoretical and patient level.

It's certainly one of the better psychological therapies out there.

when will america realize how awful juries are

Probably when the juries start to make autonomous decisions

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Why do we fear death?

For the immediate panic and reaction to a grisly fate?
I would be inclined to think that's to do with simple biological programming.

If you look at the basic impulses of a life-form, avoidance of injury (pain) is a pretty strong command signal. Sticking your hand on a radiator that is too hot results in you moving away and probably swearing before you've had time to think.

For the more existential stuff?
Egh that's pretty open ended.

You could look at the effects of consciousness, how a person enjoys living and dislikes the cessation of enjoyment (Skinnerites) or from a more cognitive standpoint.

Fear of the unknown, fear of not finishing what you wanted to complete, fear of causing pain to loved ones. There are lots of ways to look at why we fear death and I think it will vary greatly from person to person.

I would fear death because it's the end of my usefulness on this planet, I'll quite probably die thinking that I could have done more to help others and that will suck shit through a straw.

That might be quite different from someone who fears death because they love the baser things in life (money, cars, nightclubs etc) and they don't want the party to stop.

The latter question, but I guess both are good answers. It's hard to phrase it in a way that is psychological and not philosophical.

Ah good, Philosophy was never my strong point.

No need to hide the pyramids, we do things old school ITT

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Have you done any therapy yet?

As a practitioner? Not yet
As a patient? Extensively

Oh dear. I remember that. >.>

Yep, mostly in the past now but I think I still have another round ahead of me before I've put all the demons to bed.

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If so what was your weirdest experience so far?

The moment of bizarre amusement as I sat in a family therapy session wondering how this eejit got to be qualified. This eejit being the psychologist running the session, If I wasn't so irritated by the atrocious way he handled my younger brothers I probably would have been laughing in his face that day.

Ask the question again in a couple of years and I might have some fun stories to tell from the perspective I think you were hoping for

Yeah I was going with you being on the other side of the psych. chair. The one diagnosing.
I can only imagine what being on the receiving end of a bad psych. would be like. Not fun. [/quote]
Yeh

It's simply awful and it makes me genuinely angry when I hear of incompetence from psychologists, a bad psych can do far more harm through their stupidity than a bad doctor can do. The result of someone at breaking point reaching out for help and being smacked down through a dipshit with a checklist is [teeth grinding]

My axe to grind aside, bad psychologists should be rounded up and shot. Or made into chartered accountants.

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Is sociopathy, psychopathy and ASPD  the same thing? I seem to be getting conflicting answers on this one.

Yes, No, Maybe, I don't know.

The trouble with psychology is that you can use any number of different terms to refer to the same condition.
MDD, MD, Clinical Depression, Severe Depression etc are all the same condition.

With Socio/Psycho/ASPD it's a tricky one. The way I have it pinned in my head, which is by no means definitive but there is no definitive answer here soooo

Sociopath - Someone who exhibits the traits as a result of abuse in early childhood (i.e Socially made)
Psychopath - Someone who exhibits the traits from an early age, without a history of abuse  (i.e genetically made 'the warrior gene')
ASPD - the mincing fluffy way of diagnosing someone as a psychopath without the same level of stigma because the idiots who take a diagnosis of psychopathy and run to the press screaming tall tales of serial killers tend to be below the cognitive ability to pay attention to the term 'Antisocial Personality Disorder'
or to put it in a better light, it is the DSM's way of writing psychopathy as they believe it fits in better as a form of personality disorder rather than as a standalone clinical diagnosis. (I don't really agree here)

Ah yeah, similar to what my Dad said, especially on ASPD. This seems to be the answer from all the people who have actually studied psych.

Ah good, at least I'm not barking up the wrong tree then lol.

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Are you going for a PhD?

Yes and No

Depending on your country it might be written as ClinPsyD or PsyD or PhD but it's all the same thing, just different ways of writing out 'Doctor of Clinical Psychology'

so yes

eventually

Ah I didn't know it was different. But yes, having the title of Dr.

Yeah it varies a little but that's the goal.

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How much do you know about cognitive distortions?

I'm afraid this might need a bit more elaboration, the term doesn't quite fit into a category but I'm farily sure I know a bit about any of the possibilities.

Do you mean someone who holds FUBAR cognitive schemas that result in distorted patterns of thinking?
or someone who holds delusions at the cognitive level?

That might be it, it's pretty closely related with CBT iirc.
Say an example of a patient jumping to conclusions (jumping to conclusions being one of the distortions) and being anxious because of doing so.
I'm not sure what they're called beyond that so...

Ahh, yes in that case I do.

Faulty schemas, assumptions and leaps of logic that go on in people's minds are what CBT sets out to correct.

The example of someone you know not saying hello to you in the street can be explained as
Faulty - they are ignoring me on purpose, they must dislike me or i've done something wrong -> avoid in future
Normal - They were probably just busy or preoccupied, not a big deal I'll send them a message sometime and see how they are

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Also how much do you know of CBT? (Cognitive Behavior Therapy)

A fair bit, from the theoretical and patient level.

It's certainly one of the better psychological therapies out there.

Have you started thinking about what type(?) of therapy you would use regularly. (If that's a thing, i'm not entirely sure.)
Or does it vary on the patient?

Hmm, well I'm aiming to become a clinical psychologist which allows you to basically work with any of the major theoretical perspectives to tailor the treatment to the patient's requirements. So if they need CBT you can provide that, if they need humanistic counselling you can provide that, if they need something else - you can either do it or refer them to the right person for it.

Really the only thing a clinpsy can't do is prescribe medication, which in some places is starting to change (extra clinical training to put them on par with a nurse practicioner and the like, so maybe by the time i qualify that's the new norm and I can add another tool to the toolbox <.<

[pls no more spoilers it breaks the quotes and it took me 10 mins to fix this reply ;-;]