Quote from: M8A-ORD on December 30, 2015, 10:20:28 PM(you yourself argued with Challenger that no action is truly altruistic, in the sense of having no component of self-gratification)Well, yeah, but obviously, we can still identify acts as being more or less selfish/selfless than other things. Committing to veganism, helping your neighbor, etc. are all examples of selfless deeds that, while they have a kernel of selfishness in them, are ultimately outweighed by their higher degree of selflessness and altruism.so that's not really relevant--it's like bringing up determinism and saying, "well, it's pointless to do anything because everything is determined"
(you yourself argued with Challenger that no action is truly altruistic, in the sense of having no component of self-gratification)
due to altruistic endeavors
what
Quote from: Verbatim on December 30, 2015, 10:53:01 PMdue to altruistic endeavors Hardly; where do you think drugs would be without intellectual property rights?QuotewhatIt simply isn't on the cards at the moment; the worst we have seen in recent history is Rwanda, Darfur, Saddam Hussein and the current campaign by ISIS against the Yazidi people. But these don't even touch what we've seen before.
Quote from: Cindy on December 30, 2015, 01:40:00 PMQuote from: M8A-ORD on December 30, 2015, 01:22:47 PMa woman's prior promiscuity is a good indicator of how successful her marriage will ultimately be.And a man's?I don't know.
Quote from: M8A-ORD on December 30, 2015, 01:22:47 PMa woman's prior promiscuity is a good indicator of how successful her marriage will ultimately be.And a man's?
a woman's prior promiscuity is a good indicator of how successful her marriage will ultimately be.
Quote from: Winy on December 30, 2015, 03:43:11 PMI agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?Noi don't--that's the entire point of asceticismif i had it my way, i'd eliminate every last one of my personal desires that only benefit me--i occasionally masturbate, and i'm trying to quit that, for examplei want nothing--and everyone else should be the same exact way
I agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?
I'm talking about sex. Stop hiding and running. This is about sex.
Sex shouldn't be such a casual thing. Promiscuity is disgusting, especially in women.
The point is women need to respect themselves more and stop spreading their legs for every dog of a man that lusts after them.
This is irrelevant to promiscuity and sexual fetishes and sexual depravity.
Women have no respect for themselves these days. They prostitute themselves for money in the music industry. In movies. In TV shows.
Do you honestly think the way sex is portrayed today to be ok?
I don't know why I wrote violent, but the word I meant to write was furious or something like that.
Quote from: Desty on December 30, 2015, 10:05:00 AMI don't know why I wrote violent, but the word I meant to write was furious or something like that.That's more like it. I'd be lying if I said video games didn't frustrate me sometimes, but it's not the same thing as violence. If someone gets angry at a video game and then takes out his frustrations by, let's say, beating up their brother or something? Yeah, that's an issue with the person, not the game.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 30, 2015, 03:45:35 PMQuote from: Winy on December 30, 2015, 03:43:11 PMI agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?Noi don't--that's the entire point of asceticismif i had it my way, i'd eliminate every last one of my personal desires that only benefit me--i occasionally masturbate, and i'm trying to quit that, for examplei want nothing--and everyone else should be the same exact wayI wanna kill myself on the daily and I STILL feel happy that I'm not youThat's not even meant as an insult, just, like...how do you deal with having such a bleak outlook on literally every single facet of life and existence?
Quote from: Cindy on December 31, 2015, 03:20:43 AMQuote from: Verbatim on December 30, 2015, 03:45:35 PMQuote from: Winy on December 30, 2015, 03:43:11 PMI agree, but like I said, we all prefer to have some things to enjoy on our own, no?Noi don't--that's the entire point of asceticismif i had it my way, i'd eliminate every last one of my personal desires that only benefit me--i occasionally masturbate, and i'm trying to quit that, for examplei want nothing--and everyone else should be the same exact wayI wanna kill myself on the daily and I STILL feel happy that I'm not youThat's not even meant as an insult, just, like...how do you deal with having such a bleak outlook on literally every single facet of life and existence?smugness that he isn't as immoral as others
I just don't get it, thoLike, it's not like a religious, spiritual sort of thing like Tibetan monks or anything that takes severe power of will, it's just...being extremely boring and thinking that anything that might have a negative output in any form or factor is evil and should be eradicated from one's lifestyle.
Eh, sex is a personal choice.
Oh, so you're just sexist then. Alrighty.
Quote from: Cindy on December 31, 2015, 03:19:49 AMOh, so you're just sexist then. Alrighty.Haha, what? Are you some kind of progressive meme that calls out sexism even where you find no sign of it?
Sex is fun
Quote from: Prime Megaten on December 31, 2015, 09:31:53 AMEh, sex is a personal choice.see, this is just such a nothing statement, thoughwhat about sex being a personal choice has to do with it being advisable or notor something that we should be desensitized to
As if that's an excuse. If you're comfortable doing something irresponsible and probably damaging to the future well-being of both yourself and your relationships, you're acting in a moronic manner.
but when it comes to men, you claim you don't know that it works the same way
Quote from: M8A-ORD on December 31, 2015, 09:38:33 AMAs if that's an excuse. If you're comfortable doing something irresponsible and probably damaging to the future well-being of both yourself and your relationships, you're acting in a moronic manner.right, but the same sort of logic applies to both gendersyou realize
I don't know because I've never seen any evidence surrounding the effects of promiscuity in men. Speaking from personal experience, I would agree that promiscuity has, if anything, a negative impact on long-term well-being. . . But my anecdotal experience is not ampliative to the aggregate of men. My "sexism" is just me refusing to form a conclusion on a topic I know pretty much nothing about. God forbid I acknowledge the limits of my knowledge. Besides, as I pointed out with Challenger, my concern for men is much wider than promiscuity, but general uselessness and irresponsibility. I'd wager, in terms of parenting or forming a long and stable relationship, men are more likely to be deadbeats.
. . . Yeah. I never said it didn't.
it was heavily implied not only by your posts
I disagree; most of what I've said, taken in context, is pretty clearly referring to promiscuity in general and is not exclusionary to men. "Promiscuity doesn't make people happier"."That said, I don't particularly hold promiscuity against people.""I am pretty promiscuous, partly because I'm impulsive and partly because I indulge my degenerate hedonism.""I'm a hypocrite""Men need to stop being deadbeats and women need to stop fucking deadbeats."If you think you've found any sexism, it's only because alarm bells are ringing in your head at the things I've said specifically about women while not taking into consideration the things I've also said specifically about men, or people as a whole.
Quote from: Cindy on December 31, 2015, 03:25:59 AMSex is funAs if that's an excuse. If you're comfortable doing something irresponsible and probably damaging to the future well-being of both yourself and your relationships, you're acting in a moronic manner.
cindy is, i'm just trying to get you to understand why your statements may have been construed that way
it's not a colossally-huge deal
Sex is good for relationships.
1. Wrap it up2. Birth controlOh look, the danger is gone.
Quote from: Winy on December 31, 2015, 10:07:40 AM1. Wrap it up2. Birth controlOh look, the danger is gone. it's not, thoughbirth control doesn't always work and condoms can breakeven vasectomies aren't a guaranteed contraceptive
I meant when you combine both of them. In which case, the danger of pregnancy has essentially been nullified. Check for breaks in the condom afterwards (Which is easy), if it makes you feel better. If you really want to go overkill, wear a condom, use birth control, and pull out. You've got a better chance of getting hit by lightning, at that point.
Promiscuity and desensitization to sex
