>People calling Trump the next Hitler.
>People calling Trump a Zionist Israeli loving shill.
>Me, knowing Trump is just a fucking idiot. 

Thank you Mr. Vice President!
Thank you Mr. Vice President!
Thank you Mr. Vice President!
Thank you Mr. Vice President!
THANK YOU!

Senator Harris, please take all the time you need to talk about abortion.

>People calling Trump the next Hitler.
>People calling Trump a Zionist Israeli loving shill.
>Me, knowing Trump is just a fucking idiot.

Why did they hope a speedy recovery for a fascist?

What measures are we looking at this time around?

MI's only got two, both of which are easy and boring:

Prop 1: This measure would establish the Michigan natural resources trust fund and would change the ways in which revenue in the state's park-related funds can be spent, including allowing for spending on: (A) capital improvements at Michigan state parks; (B) operations and maintenance at Michigan state parks; (C) acquisition of land or rights in land for Michigan state parks. [yes]

Prop 2: The ballot measure would add language to the Michigan State Constitution that requires a search warrant to access electronic data or electronic communications. The ballot measure would also state that electronic data and electronic communications are secure from unreasonable searches and seizures. [yes]

meanwhile, states like MA are getting to vote on cool stuff like IRV and shit. no fair

i don't have any

Pretty impressive stuff from Biden even if he did have a couple of brain farts, i.e. the "poor boys" mishap.

He out flanked Trump on all the populist issues and made him look like the elitist rather than the outsider.

Calling it now. The Trump trains over. The 2016 magic just isn't there anymore. He's gone from the renegade populist that could bring back jobs to just another wall street crony. Who honestly gives a fuck about the stock market unless you're in the top 10%? Rust belt voters certainly don't.

Idk it feels like people from gen x and above do put a lot of stock in the debates.

And with that said I feel like trump did pretty well this time in the eyes of the undecided, uninformed voter. He’s just a far better public speaker than Biden and it felt like there was a lot more conviction in what he was saying, even though what he was saying was garbage. Considering his campaign strategy seems to be “muddy the waters as much as possible with misinformation and conspiratorial garbage so people don’t know what to believe,” he definitely did just that. To those people, it probably looks like two corrupt politicians calling each other corrupt. Just like in the last debate, it looked like two people talking over each other even though it was almost entirely because of Trump.

I wish Biden had went harder on the Trump/Ukraine scandal, because it seems like a lot of undecideds and people that watch conservative media legitimately don’t even know why he was impeached. It’s honestly shocking how this is the hill conservatives are willing to die on considering, even if it’s true (which it doesn’t appear like it is), it wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad as what Trump did.

Pretty impressive stuff from Biden even if he did have a couple of brain farts, i.e. the "poor boys" mishap.

He out flanked Trump on all the populist issues and made him look like the elitist rather than the outsider.

Calling it now. The Trump trains over. The 2016 magic just isn't there anymore. He's gone from the renegade populist that could bring back jobs to just another wall street crony. Who honestly gives a fuck about the stock market unless you're in the top 10%? Rust belt voters certainly don't.

Unfortunately I don't think you're quite right. Trump supporters are so used to making excuses for him that I doubt they could be swayed.

If the shit I hear at work is any indication anyways.

In fairness to the 2016 polls, they were actually more or less accurate with regards to the popular vote. Most had Clinton with a 1-4 point lead which is in line with what happened on the day. Assuming 2020 polls are at least as accurate as 2016's, Biden has the popular vote in the bag, and hopefully this lead translates into an EC victory too.

My official prediction (someone who loosely followed politics). 274-264 Trump wins re-election.

I'm not so sure about MI or IA.

As for my home state, I seriously doubt FL will go blue. Even in the more liberal Greater-Orlando area, it seems to be a pretty even split on who people support.

if MI shits the bed again, but i'm otherwise 100% accurate, we'll actually have a tie

are they still expecting it to take weeks, potentially, to hear the result?

Whoever wins, we lose.