mfw chaotic systems and multiple variables.
Never.
Quote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Quote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.
I ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.
Quote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.
Quote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 04:01:37 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?With our current understanding, yeah.that edge tho
Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?With our current understanding, yeah.
Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:02:00 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 04:01:37 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?With our current understanding, yeah.that edge thoI don't mean that our understanding is flawed; I certainly don't understand it enough to say that. I don't think that, either, but I also don't underestimate our abilities given enough time.
Quote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 04:03:08 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:02:00 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 04:01:37 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?With our current understanding, yeah.that edge thoI don't mean that our understanding is flawed; I certainly don't understand it enough to say that. I don't think that, either, but I also don't underestimate our abilities given enough time.it is tho. Our understanding of reality will only ever be approximate. Gödel's theorems m8.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 04:03:30 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?Entropy and an accelerating expansion of the universe yes but the nature of systems like we're talking about here makes it pretty much impossible to predict an end date much beyond, "some point in the future".I mean what you're talking is on the order of trillions of years m8.Is that how long it's going to take for the Universe to collapse back in on itself?
Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?Entropy and an accelerating expansion of the universe yes but the nature of systems like we're talking about here makes it pretty much impossible to predict an end date much beyond, "some point in the future".I mean what you're talking is on the order of trillions of years m8.
Quote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:06:55 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 04:03:30 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?Entropy and an accelerating expansion of the universe yes but the nature of systems like we're talking about here makes it pretty much impossible to predict an end date much beyond, "some point in the future".I mean what you're talking is on the order of trillions of years m8.Is that how long it's going to take for the Universe to collapse back in on itself?Depends which model you use. So far, as far as we can tell, our universe is headed for endless expansion and heat death. Trillions of years is the estimated time for the last of the stars to burn out. I suppose a civilization could take up habitation around black holes for energy, that would last a super long time.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 04:09:58 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:06:55 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 04:03:30 PMQuote from: Dustin Patty Cake on November 18, 2014, 04:00:07 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:51:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 03:42:39 PMQuote from: RC5908 on November 18, 2014, 03:38:49 PMQuote from: challengerX on November 18, 2014, 01:02:11 PMNever.Elaborate. Unless you're joking.Well, never at least until we evolve away from humans. I'm not pessimistic about our future as a race. I'm sure that there'll be setbacks and all that, but I think that, ultimately, we will continue to develop and evolve until we get to the point that it is impossible for us to go extinct. Obviously, I can't be sure, no one can, but I just don't see us ever fucking up so badly that we go away. QuoteI ask you to elaborate because I'm fairly certain everybody else in here is just doing what our ancestors have been doing for centuries.Oh yeah, that kind of talk annoys me. No, this generation isn't worse than the last one, no, today's world isn't more immoral than yesterday's, and no god damn it, the world isn't going to end any time soon.Don't physics make any kind of system impossible to last forever?Entropy and an accelerating expansion of the universe yes but the nature of systems like we're talking about here makes it pretty much impossible to predict an end date much beyond, "some point in the future".I mean what you're talking is on the order of trillions of years m8.Is that how long it's going to take for the Universe to collapse back in on itself?Depends which model you use. So far, as far as we can tell, our universe is headed for endless expansion and heat death. Trillions of years is the estimated time for the last of the stars to burn out. I suppose a civilization could take up habitation around black holes for energy, that would last a super long time.Dude you are on fire right now
I suppose a civilization could take up habitation around black holes for energy, that would last a super long time.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on November 18, 2014, 04:09:58 PM I suppose a civilization could take up habitation around black holes for energy, that would last a super long time.how would that work?