If anything there's a correlation between poor socioeconomic status and a lack of fundamentalism.

Can we please begin to accept, for once and for all, that beliefs and values motivate behaviour primarily.

What about the proclivity for gang violence to occur in impoverished or unhealthy areas? Isn't that a form of radicalism?

What about the proclivity for gang violence to occur in impoverished or unhealthy areas? Isn't that a form of radicalism?

I can't comment with any authority, but it could be to do with the criminal "culture" of poor, black neighbourhoods as opposed to any exceptionally poverty-driven phenomenon. Gangs are to do with community, not ideology. When it comes to crime, that sort of environment will lend itself to gang-violence; white-collar crime, including drug-abuse, still occurs. It's just nowhere near as overt.

Not to mention, Millennials, as a generation, are quite civic and law-abiding. Most violence we do see among these communities is more likely residual than proactive.

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What about the proclivity for gang violence to occur in impoverished or unhealthy areas? Isn't that a form of radicalism?

...No. Not at all. How did you even come to this conclusion?

So you see no connection between poor neighborhoods and tendency for gang violence?

When the fuck did I say that?

I'm asking you how you came to the conclusion gangs are a product of "radicalism"? Gangs form mostly because of poverty so kids stick together and then start doing all sorts of shit. But they don't read a book and steal and rob because it tells them to.

Radicalism isn't specifically religious. I was asking if he thought gangs were a form of radicalism of crime.

I don't see how. There's nothing "radical" about how gang members kill each other. It's like a war.

I wouldn't agree with that word being used in this context. Doesn't really make sense.

It's radical in the sense that they are often far more extreme than typical criminals. Really I just wanted to know if he was saying poverty doesn't inherently cause a higher tendency for extreme criminal behavior (religious or otherwise).

I'm pretty sure every single extremist was poor, but there are plenty of rich and middle class radicals.

There's no way in hell Osama bin Laden, al-Zarqawi and Abu Nidal were poor.

Violent people cause violence. Culture or socioeconomic status just increases/decreases the probability, frequency and degree of violence