Quote from: challengerX on January 15, 2015, 08:03:31 AM

I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.

What has he actually done, though? The rhetoric is different but the policies are the same, no?

Quote from: Kupo on January 15, 2015, 01:03:34 PM

Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 08:04:12 AM

Quote from: challengerX on January 15, 2015, 08:03:31 AM

I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.

What has he actually done, though? The rhetoric is different but the policies are the same, no?

Pope Francis did a ton to directly help those in poverty prior to being pope. Since he's become the head of the Church and is constantly under security, it's not reasonable to expect him to directly do so. He has made moves to try and help the poor still, and have lived a much more modest lifestyle than his predecessors.

If god has a plan for him, he shouldn't have security.

Quote from: Sly Instinct on January 15, 2015, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 03:33:17 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 15, 2015, 01:03:34 PM

Quote from: Icy on January 15, 2015, 08:04:12 AM

Quote from: challengerX on January 15, 2015, 08:03:31 AM

I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.

What has he actually done, though? The rhetoric is different but the policies are the same, no?

Pope Francis did a ton to directly help those in poverty prior to being pope. Since he's become the head of the Church and is constantly under security, it's not reasonable to expect him to directly do so. He has made moves to try and help the poor still, and have lived a much more modest lifestyle than his predecessors.

If god has a plan for him, he shouldn't have security.

Neither should the President.

The president isn't the head of his church.

The cartoons by CH can't be held up a a martyr for "Freedom of Expression", it's just down right silly and reactionary. While I'm with the idea that CH should have known better for their past history of offending people it doesn't justify what happened to them. If we're going to start killing people over satire then I guess there goes some of our best comedians.

As for the Pope, he kinda has a point, "talk shit get hit". It's just that CH got more than "a smack in the face", something that cannot be justified no matter what way you look at it.

"Faith is insulted"

This is just dumb sounding to me.