Pope Francis: There are Limits to Freedom of Expression when Faith is Insulted

 
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Pope Francis has said there are limits to freedom of expression and that in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris “one cannot make fun of faith”. On a plane from Sri Lanka to the Philippines, the largest catholic majority country in Asia, the pope said freedom of speech is a fundamental human right but “every religion has its dignity”.

Asked about the attack that killed 12 people at the offices of Charlie Hebdo - targeted because it had printed depictions of the prophet Muhammad - he said: “One cannot provoke, one cannot insult other people’s faith, one cannot make fun of faith.

“There is a limit. Every religion has its dignity ... in freedom of expression there are limits.”

He gestured to Alberto Gasparri, who organises papal trips and was standing by his side, and added: “If my good friend Dr Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch. It’s normal. It’s normal. You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others.”

Cautioning against provocation he said the right to liberty of expression came with the obligation to speak for “the common good.”

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I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.


 
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I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.
It's all bullshit. When the Vatican gives away all their millions to the poor I'll respect them. When they stop oppressing and raping kids I'll respect them.



Not even going to start down that, because this thread will be derailed by Page 2


 
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I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.
It's all bullshit. When the Vatican gives away all their millions to the poor I'll respect them. When they stop oppressing and raping kids I'll respect them.



Not even going to start down that, because this thread will be derailed by Page 2
Religious leaders are almost always garbage.

I'd amend that to say most World leaders.



 
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I'm just sitting here laughing at all the people who respect this guy because of his publicity stunts.

I respect him more for his work with the poor before (and still during) being named Pope.

You know, actually helping.
It's all bullshit. When the Vatican gives away all their millions to the poor I'll respect them. When they stop oppressing and raping kids I'll respect them.



Not even going to start down that, because this thread will be derailed by Page 2
Religious leaders are almost always garbage.

I'd amend that to say most World leaders.
But I'm talking about religion specifically.

In fact, there have been more good world leaders than there has been religious leaders.

Well, that's just common sense, considering the sheer numbers.

Anyways, back on the topic.


 
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This is pathetic, Cheat
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
b-but muh pope who respects atheism


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
I'll make fun of whatever I want. If the muslims are getting their turban in a bind, they should learn to be more mature about it and grow up. Live a little, laugh. I'm sure Jesus would be rolling on the floor laughing about the many jokes about him.


 
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So... "They deserved to die because some people take faith overly serious"?


 
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Yeah yeah, talk shit get hit, I get it, but you can't justify murder over words lime that.


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He also said it's "aberration" to kill in the name of God, as well as:
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“Each person not only has the freedom but also the obligation to say what he thinks in the name of the common good,” the pope said. But “each religion has its dignity. I cannot make fun of it.”

And bear in mind he's talking to Catholics, telling them to respect others' beliefs and to not mock them. That's like grade-school morality right there. Nothing controversial.

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By the way, I don't usually defend this guy. Typically the media distorts his message to make it seem like he's some radically progressive guy when in reality he's been towing the same line other popes have for decades. But in this case, I think they're purposefully distorting the context and meaning of his speech, largely by omitting certain parts.
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My respect for the man has just gone down a whole fucking lot.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
And just like that my mild appreciation of him disappears.


 
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My respect for the man has just gone down a whole fucking lot.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Eh I'd expect the pope to say that though.

He has to teach his followers to respect all religions so letting them mock others isn't something he could really allow.

Still stupid to restrict that kind of speech of course.


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Whether they were empty gestures or not, I have been liking Pope Frankie more than previous Popes.

This is pretty crappy, though.


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I agree with him.



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I agree with him.
*when he refers to christianity.

It's still not funny, Max


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I agree with him.
*when he refers to christianity.

It's still not funny, Max

No, when he referred to any religion.

That newspaper was full of edgy disrespectful atheists.

Did they deserve to die? Absolutely not. But this isn't really at all surprising.

Its like you liberals like to say. "You can have freedom of speech, but that doesn't protect your from its consequences".


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Its like you liberals like to say. "You can have freedom of speech, but that doesn't protect your from its consequences".
While I'm no liberal, I'm fairly certain that's more to do with criticism than being fucking murdered or otherwise coerced--especially for satire. People can criticise you however much they like when you use your freedom of expression, but within the confines of the law.


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