Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are right

 
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The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

“When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.

“The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.

“Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science – most famously when Galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his “heretic” theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

But Pope Francis’s comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was “more than a hypothesis” and “effectively proven fact”.

Yet more recently, Benedict XVI and his close advisors have apparently endorsed the idea that intelligent design underpins evolution – the idea that natural selection on its own is insufficient to explain the complexity of the world. In 2005, his close associate Cardinal Schoenborn wrote an article saying “evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense – an unguided, unplanned process – is not”.

Giovanni Bignami, a professor and president of Italy’s National Institute for Astrophysics, told the Italian news agency Adnkronos: “The pope’s statement is significant. We are the direct descendents from the Big Bang that created the universe. Evolution came from creation.”

Giulio Giorello, professor of the philosophy of science at Milan’s University degli Studi, told reporters that he believed Francis was “trying to reduce the emotion of dispute or presumed disputes” with science.

Despite the huge gulf in theological stance between his tenure and that of his predecessor, Francis praised Benedict XVI as he unveiled a bronze bust of him at the academy's headquarters in the Vatican Gardens.

“No one could ever say of him that study and science made him and his love for God and his neighbour wither,” Francis said, according to a translation by the Catholic News Service.

“On the contrary, knowledge, wisdom and prayer enlarged his heart and his spirit. Let us thank God for the gift that he gave the church and the world with the existence and the pontificate of Pope Benedict.”

I have mixed feelings about this.


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He still thinks his imaginary friend is real though....
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Well my jaw just hit the floor.

As long as he doesn't suddenly flip and start up another inquisition, Pope Francis is going to easily be the best pope in... well pretty much the entire lifespan of the catholic church.

A pro-science, pro-equality and generally nice guy from what I've seen.

Oh and inb4thefundiesscreamhe'snotarealchristian


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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk, and the Catholics have supported evolutionary intelligent design for quite some time now.
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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk.

Or people like Gregor Mendel, great-great-grandfather of genetics.
I think it's just the long illustrious line of denying and suppressing science that tends to cloud things like that <.<


 
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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk
I thought he was just a priest?


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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk
I thought he was just a priest?

Oh, you're right.

In more depressing news, when Googling "Big Bang theory", the first two pages of results are almost entirely for that cesspool of a show.


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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk
I thought he was just a priest?

Oh, you're right.

In more depressing news, when Googling "Big Bang theory", the first two pages of results are almost entirely for that cesspool of a show.
I don't blame them. People, in general, are much more likely to discuss the show than the science. Just modify your search terms to clarify


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Holy fucking shit. That's a big step!

Evolution is fact though, it has been seen in action before.
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People forget that the guy that first proposed the big bang theory was a monk
I thought he was just a priest?

Oh, you're right.

In more depressing news, when Googling "Big Bang theory", the first two pages of results are almost entirely for that cesspool of a show.
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Eh, I will believe what I believe, others can do the same.
In literally the same thread as your comment about imaginary friends.


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We owe many Catholics for their studies that make up the basis of science this day

physics (Galileo)
acoustics (Mersenne)
mineralogy (Agricola)
modern chemistry (Lavoisier)
modern anatomy (Vesalius)
stratigraphy (Steno)
bacteriology (Kircher and Pasteur)
genetics (Mendel)
analytical geometry (Descartes)
heliocentric cosmology (Copernicus)
atomic theory (Boscovich)
and the Big Bang Theory on the origins of the universe (Lemaître).

Others also devised modern lunar nomenclature and stellar classification and some 35 craters of the moon are named after Jesuits, among whose great scientific polymaths were Francesco Grimaldi and Giambattista Riccioli. The Jesuits also introduced Western science to India and China and translated local texts to be sent to Europe for study. Missionaries contributed significantly to the fields of anthropology, zoology and botany during Europe's Age of Discovery

Besides, I've always been an advocate that the Big Bang and God are interconnected because it makes sense. Stop seeing science and religion as two differing sides and instead see them as puzzle pieces that can complete the damn puzzle. God could have created the Big Bang or the Big Bang could have happened independently from God. Micro-evolution is also a common ocurrence as you see animals shed their winter coats in the summer


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When somebody is actually intelligent and knows that religion is a joke and that god is not real, and somebody calls them "edgy" or says something equally retarded like that, they are actually just trolling, right?

So cringe worthy.

No one gives a fuck if you aren't religious. Statements like this are why I hate the majority of atheists.


 
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knows that religion is a joke and that god is not real
You're incredibly ignorant if you think you can make such metaphysical claims.


 
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When somebody is actually intelligent and knows that religion is a joke and that god is not real, and somebody calls them "edgy" or says something equally retarded like that, they are actually just trolling, right?

So cringe worthy.

No one gives a fuck if you aren't religious. Statements like this are why I hate the majority of atheists.


 
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I'm disgusted you think you can claim such findings for Catholicism, especially when the first man on your list was declared a heretic and deprived of his liberties. We don't "owe" these people as Catholics anything at all. We owe them as rationalists, empiricists and scientists - no creed or person can lay claim to such things.

There is no truth in Catholic cosmology, just as there is no truth in Deutsche Physik or Islamic mathematics. The truth is the truth, and while religion has been inexorably intertwined with massive cultural leaps throughout history, it has often been in spite of modernity as opposed to alongside it.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Catholicism has been relatively accepting of contemporary science for a while now. The only nutjobs that have had a problem with it are Evangelicals from the Bible states.


 
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Agnosticism is the only "intelligent" belief.
Provided you aren't an agnostic theist or deist, then agnosticism is by default atheistic.


 
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Catholicism has been relatively accepting of contemporary science for a while now.
Call me when they stop with the expensive grandeur.

And when they finally stop preaching against contraception, for fuck's sake.


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