i'll just say thischicks with dicks = pretty okay to me
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 02:23:24 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 02:08:11 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 02:00:25 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMQuote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 01:48:14 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsSo if someone looked 100% female, but still had a penis, you would think of them as a man rather than a woman?Because this person just screams "male" to you?I'm going to stick with what I can gleam from my observations. I can't see through clothes, obviously.That said, VERY few crossdressers can pass as well as the picture, if that is one. There's generally a pretty clear giveaway.>CrossdressersYou...don't understand much about trans people, do you?penis+female clothing=crossdresser
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 02:08:11 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 02:00:25 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMQuote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 01:48:14 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsSo if someone looked 100% female, but still had a penis, you would think of them as a man rather than a woman?Because this person just screams "male" to you?I'm going to stick with what I can gleam from my observations. I can't see through clothes, obviously.That said, VERY few crossdressers can pass as well as the picture, if that is one. There's generally a pretty clear giveaway.>CrossdressersYou...don't understand much about trans people, do you?
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 02:00:25 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMQuote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 01:48:14 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsSo if someone looked 100% female, but still had a penis, you would think of them as a man rather than a woman?Because this person just screams "male" to you?I'm going to stick with what I can gleam from my observations. I can't see through clothes, obviously.That said, VERY few crossdressers can pass as well as the picture, if that is one. There's generally a pretty clear giveaway.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMQuote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 01:48:14 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsSo if someone looked 100% female, but still had a penis, you would think of them as a man rather than a woman?Because this person just screams "male" to you?
Quote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 01:48:14 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female terms
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:45:50 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.Not really. What are intersex and chimeric individuals? XXY?
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:19:06 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?Biological sex is concrete and objective. Fluid or static as gender may be, physical sex is empirical and well defined.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:12:07 PMIt would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had."Biologically" and "preferred" are the keywords, aren't they?I take it you believe that biological sex takes priority over personal preference.Is there any logical reason to have reached that conclusion, though?
It would be objectively false to refer to me as she. I am biologically male.If I were biologically male but preferred to be referred to as she, then there's a discussion to be had.
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 01:51:20 PMAnd what kind of principle is that, then?Because the only concrete answer I've received so far is "well it makes me feel icky."Why do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me feel uncomfortable calling you a female when you aren't one, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is you are a male. If you were born male you are male. Nothing will change that. I don't have to call you what you tell me to call you to spare your feelings because you have a mental illness. I do it to be nice. I don't have to be nice.
And what kind of principle is that, then?Because the only concrete answer I've received so far is "well it makes me feel icky."
Because that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMIf you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsWhy is genitalia the end-all, be-all? Why is it more important that we identify as our biological sex?Because that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.
Quote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMIf you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsWhy is genitalia the end-all, be-all? Why is it more important that we identify as our biological sex?
If you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female terms
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:20:04 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMBecause that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.That is circular logic.It's not antinatalism though, friend .
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMBecause that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.That is circular logic.
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 03:19:48 PMWhy do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me uncomfortable calling a black man a person when he isn't one, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is he's a nigger. If he was born black he's a nigger. Nothing will change that.LOLBlack people are people though. That's scientifically proven. QuoteWhy do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me uncomfortable calling a gay man normal when he isn't, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is he's a faggot. If he was born gay he's a faggot. Nothing will change that.Being gay is totally normal. So is being trans. They're both wrong, though. QuoteSee how silly that sounds?It was silly, because what I'm saying has scientific backing. I don't say it because I'm "bigoted" or whatever other term you're trying to label me with. QuoteAnd, lo and behold, recognizing someone as their preferred gender in order to curb dysphoria and generally not be a prick kind of beats out "well I'm a bigot so that's just too bad."How am I a bigot?
Why do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me uncomfortable calling a black man a person when he isn't one, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is he's a nigger. If he was born black he's a nigger. Nothing will change that.
Why do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me uncomfortable calling a gay man normal when he isn't, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is he's a faggot. If he was born gay he's a faggot. Nothing will change that.
See how silly that sounds?
And, lo and behold, recognizing someone as their preferred gender in order to curb dysphoria and generally not be a prick kind of beats out "well I'm a bigot so that's just too bad."
Quote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 03:20:14 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMIf you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsWhy is genitalia the end-all, be-all? Why is it more important that we identify as our biological sex?Because that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.Man, must suck to be an infertile woman, then.Are they men, too?LOL Grasping for straws. She's a woman, she's just an fertile woman.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 01:56:17 PMQuote from: HEAT SEEKING GHOST OF SEX on October 18, 2015, 01:52:20 PMIf you have a penis you are male. If a vagina, female. If neither or both I'd stick to gender neutral terms until I'm told to use male or female termsWhy is genitalia the end-all, be-all? Why is it more important that we identify as our biological sex?Because that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.Man, must suck to be an infertile woman, then.Are they men, too?
So...hold onYou acknowledge that gender dysphoria is an actual thing, you acknowledge that transgenders actually suffer from said dysphoria and that the scientifically-backed method of treatment is HRT and gender confirmation...and yet you refuse to acknowledge trans people as their preferred genders because it doesn't "feel right" to you?
Because they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.
Quote from: eggsalad on October 18, 2015, 03:24:16 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:13:05 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 01:51:20 PMAnd what kind of principle is that, then?Because the only concrete answer I've received so far is "well it makes me feel icky."Why do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me feel uncomfortable calling you a female when you aren't one, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is you are a male. If you were born male you are male. Nothing will change that. I don't have to call you what you tell me to call you to spare your feelings because you have a mental illness. I do it to be nice. I don't have to be nice.Because your pathology is borderline obsessive with genetalia. If you're having a conversation with someone and despite every other apparent aspect of them being female, you choose to think instead about their junk. It's unnecessarily sexual and to be honest concerning.LMAOI could easily say you have an unhealthy obsession with aesthetics, which you actually do. I don't care about your genitalia, I'm simply informing you that you're a male because you have a penis.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:13:05 PMQuote from: Cindo on October 18, 2015, 01:51:20 PMAnd what kind of principle is that, then?Because the only concrete answer I've received so far is "well it makes me feel icky."Why do your feelings matter but mine don't?I just told you it makes me feel uncomfortable calling you a female when you aren't one, and the only reason I do so is to be polite. Fact is you are a male. If you were born male you are male. Nothing will change that. I don't have to call you what you tell me to call you to spare your feelings because you have a mental illness. I do it to be nice. I don't have to be nice.Because your pathology is borderline obsessive with genetalia. If you're having a conversation with someone and despite every other apparent aspect of them being female, you choose to think instead about their junk. It's unnecessarily sexual and to be honest concerning.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:31:19 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:28:23 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:20:04 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMBecause that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.That is circular logic.It's not antinatalism though, friend .Yeah, because anti-natalism is actually logical.Now, why does biology matter in terms of what words you use to describe people with? Why should biological sex determine which pronouns you use? Where is the correlation between biological sex and the words "him" and "her"?Because they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:28:23 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:20:04 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:19:04 PMBecause that's what you are. You're either male or female. Females can have babies, males can't. Some "woman" with a dick can't have a baby.That is circular logic.It's not antinatalism though, friend .Yeah, because anti-natalism is actually logical.Now, why does biology matter in terms of what words you use to describe people with? Why should biological sex determine which pronouns you use? Where is the correlation between biological sex and the words "him" and "her"?
Being gay is totally normal. So is being trans. They're both wrong, though.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 18, 2015, 03:36:54 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.There's nothing archaic about it. It's how you define sex.
Quote from: challengerX on October 18, 2015, 03:36:07 PMBecause they're words we developed to refer to people who have a penis or have a vagina.Great. My argument is that we should evolve past that. That's an archaic way of doing things.
I don't care about your genitalia, I'm simply informing you that you're a male because you have a penis.
I keep forgetting that's challenger. Please go back to the frog :<
Quote from: Luciana on October 18, 2015, 03:41:41 PMI keep forgetting that's challenger. Please go back to the frog :<oh come on, lucihe didn't even change his username, and you forgot who he was
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