The meanings of symbols can change with use, take the swastika for example.Prior to the Nazi Party yoinking it for their own ends, it simply meant luck/prosperity/hope/w.e but now one look and *boom* Goosestepping and Panzers everywhere.So I imagine in the same way the hippies morphing it into their own symbol of peace can be seen as a mirror of it.I don't think I'd say it's satanic or anti-peace though, the meaning of it is pretty clear and established nowadays.
That seems pretty silly. Conversely, the swastika is a symbol historically associated with notions of life and good luck in ancient Chinese culture, but you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who's willing to look past its darker connotations.A symbol by itself means nothing. The intent behind the symbol is all that really matters. Context is everything.edit:ninja'd by a ninja, but the point still stands
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 08, 2015, 06:59:08 PMThe meanings of symbols can change with use, take the swastika for example.Prior to the Nazi Party yoinking it for their own ends, it simply meant luck/prosperity/hope/w.e but now one look and *boom* Goosestepping and Panzers everywhere.So I imagine in the same way the hippies morphing it into their own symbol of peace can be seen as a mirror of it.I don't think I'd say it's satanic or anti-peace though, the meaning of it is pretty clear and established nowadays.The rotated swastika used to mean "peace" to the Buddist, damn nazis at least they didn't ruin the peace sign for everyone.
Okay what about the cross then? It was something they hung up people on my slamming nails into their palms and feet... Why is it something so endeared today? I guess that's making your point even more valid, but still it baffles me. The image of the cross reminds me of all of the people bad Christians killed to spread their beliefs.
Quote from: Kitsunekun on June 08, 2015, 07:01:58 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on June 08, 2015, 06:59:08 PMThe meanings of symbols can change with use, take the swastika for example.Prior to the Nazi Party yoinking it for their own ends, it simply meant luck/prosperity/hope/w.e but now one look and *boom* Goosestepping and Panzers everywhere.So I imagine in the same way the hippies morphing it into their own symbol of peace can be seen as a mirror of it.I don't think I'd say it's satanic or anti-peace though, the meaning of it is pretty clear and established nowadays.The rotated swastika used to mean "peace" to the Buddist, damn nazis at least they didn't ruin the peace sign for everyone.Indeed, it was quite surreal walking around a buddhist shrine and seeing golden swastikas carved into everything.That's the way it goes though, for a more amusing one you have the V-sign.Way back when in the 1300s an archers salute was the ultimate insult to the frog cavalry, to compliment them on their inability to cut the saluter's fingers off but fastforward a few hundred years and boom, churchill uses it for 'Victory/Peace' and suddenly all the hippies are walking around doing the peace sign that was originally used as a battlefield insult.
Quote from: Kitsunekun on June 08, 2015, 07:06:41 PMOkay what about the cross then? It was something they hung up people on my slamming nails into their palms and feet... Why is it something so endeared today? I guess that's making your point even more valid, but still it baffles me. The image of the cross reminds me of all of the people bad Christians killed to spread their beliefs.I think to a Christian, the cross is supposed to be a symbol of humility and reverence. It's a recognition of Jesus, because he died for our sins and all that nonsense. That's what it's supposed to remind you of, I think. The glory of god and such.As for the upside-down cross, historically, after Jesus's supposed crucifixion, there were a few individuals who were crucified upside down, because they were deemed unworthy of dying in a similar way to the lord & savior. So the reason why Satanists use it kind of confuses me--because it's also a symbol of Christian humility. It's like Satanists are admitting they're not worthy, or something. lol
This sounds a little alex jones-ey tbh
Wasnt the upside down cross a religious symbol too at some point, but is now associated with anti-christianity
Quote from: oss on June 08, 2015, 09:05:37 PMWasnt the upside down cross a religious symbol too at some point, but is now associated with anti-christianitySt. Peter's Cross. He had his cross inverted because he felt unworthy to die in the same way as his lord and savior.
Quote from: Kitsunekun on June 08, 2015, 07:01:58 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on June 08, 2015, 06:59:08 PMThe meanings of symbols can change with use, take the swastika for example.Prior to the Nazi Party yoinking it for their own ends, it simply meant luck/prosperity/hope/w.e but now one look and *boom* Goosestepping and Panzers everywhere.So I imagine in the same way the hippies morphing it into their own symbol of peace can be seen as a mirror of it.I don't think I'd say it's satanic or anti-peace though, the meaning of it is pretty clear and established nowadays.The rotated swastika used to mean "peace" to the Buddist, damn nazis at least they didn't ruin the peace sign for everyone.My Buddhist necklace has the original symbol on it. I don't see Hitler behind that symbol though, I see my Buddha statue that wears it : )
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 08, 2015, 09:09:20 PMQuote from: oss on June 08, 2015, 09:05:37 PMWasnt the upside down cross a religious symbol too at some point, but is now associated with anti-christianitySt. Peter's Cross. He had his cross inverted because he felt unworthy to die in the same way as his lord and savior.Thats...actually kinda cool to know
Peace Symbol = Satanic?
