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Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 02:38:15 PM/r/forwardsfromgrandmaYou would be the one guy to defend Common core, wouldn't you?
Quote from: Mega Sceptile on October 14, 2014, 03:30:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on October 14, 2014, 03:26:55 PMWhat exactly is the problem here? Are you fucÂking allergic to numberlines? number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on October 14, 2014, 03:26:55 PMWhat exactly is the problem here? Are you fucÂking allergic to numberlines? number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.
What exactly is the problem here? Are you fucÂking allergic to numberlines?
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:31:34 PMQuote from: Mega Sceptile on October 14, 2014, 03:30:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on October 14, 2014, 03:26:55 PMWhat exactly is the problem here? Are you fucÂking allergic to numberlines? number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.Except we fracking are. They were present as far in school as my Advanced Functions class.
Quote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:01:47 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:31:34 PMQuote from: Mega Sceptile on October 14, 2014, 03:30:28 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on October 14, 2014, 03:26:55 PMWhat exactly is the problem here? Are you fucÂking allergic to numberlines? number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.Except we fracking are. They were present as far in school as my Advanced Functions class.In what context? What concepts are covered in Advanced Functions? That's not a course title I'm familiar with.
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 03:52:15 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:48:31 PMI find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about itWell, CommonCore is a liberal policy. Why would a liberal source link to something that goes against the policies of politicians they support?Just because it's supported by liberals [and a number of conservatives, mind you] doesn't mean it's some attack by liberals to try to inject the public school system with their positions.I'd love to see what conservatives would propose we do to reform schools, but they haven't proposed fucÂk-all.
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:48:31 PMI find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about itWell, CommonCore is a liberal policy. Why would a liberal source link to something that goes against the policies of politicians they support?
I find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about it
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:54:34 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 03:52:15 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 03:48:31 PMI find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about itWell, CommonCore is a liberal policy. Why would a liberal source link to something that goes against the policies of politicians they support?Just because it's supported by liberals [and a number of conservatives, mind you] doesn't mean it's some attack by liberals to try to inject the public school system with their positions.I'd love to see what conservatives would propose we do to reform schools, but they haven't proposed fucÂk-all.loose
http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Teachers should also be teaching, not reciting from a xerox paper and passing the same paper to students, just with blanks.
Parents also need to be a voice in education and the school adjust based on the input
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:22:25 PMhttp://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education. Right, so they can get the Bible into education.
Quote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:25:16 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:22:25 PMhttp://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education. Right, so they can get the Bible into education.What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:22:25 PMTeachers should also be teaching, not reciting from a xerox paper and passing the same paper to students, just with blanks. Well, that's not what teachers do, so I'm not sure what to tell you.Quote Parents also need to be a voice in education and the school adjust based on the input...and that's how we get biology teachers having to talk about how "evolution is one idea, but there are others"
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:25:16 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:22:25 PMhttp://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education. Right, so they can get the Bible into education.What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?I was aware of this, but you referred specifically to the Republicans. And we all know what the Republican motivation is, here.
telling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.
Quote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:30:06 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:27:33 PMQuote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:25:16 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:22:25 PMhttp://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education. Right, so they can get the Bible into education.What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?I was aware of this, but you referred specifically to the Republicans. And we all know what the Republican motivation is, here.Because Max asked for the Republican's idea of education? He didn't ask for the Libertarian's
Quote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:31:50 PMtelling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.Education is a one-sided concept because there is only one side - facts.We don't teach numerology, astrology, or phrenology for a reason.
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 04:33:49 PMQuote from: Kinder Swageington on October 14, 2014, 04:31:50 PMtelling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.Education is a one-sided concept because there is only one side - facts.We don't teach numerology, astrology, or phrenology for a reason.A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon. So you're partially correct when science teaches facts, but science is the general consensus on a subject and can possibly be disproved with more research in the future
Saying that teaching creationism will make people dumber is kinda redundant. Brazil forbids the teaching of evolution but still ranks lower than American science courses. On the other hand you have Germany which discusses creationism and it's education is ranked far higher than America's
Anyway, Kinder, I'd like to know what your issue is with Common Core, other than it being liberal-backed (which should have no bearing on it's validity).I'm assuming you know that it does not impose a specific curriculum or set any kind of limit for education, only a set of minimum standards.
creationism gives another view
A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it.
but science is the general consensus
Saying that teaching creationism will make people dumber is kinda redundant.
On the other hand you have Germany which discusses creationism and it's education is ranked far higher than America's
Quote from: RustingFloor on October 14, 2014, 04:34:25 PMAnyway, Kinder, I'd like to know what your issue is with Common Core, other than it being liberal-backed (which should have no bearing on it's validity).I'm assuming you know that it does not impose a specific curriculum or set any kind of limit for education, only a set of minimum standards.I despise Common Core because it's forcing all schools to adjust education to meet a dumb-down national standard that will benefit weaker, inner city schools. It's easier to downgrade the education of a more prestigious school because it's just less work for students but upgrading education in a crap school will result in more students dropping out on top of the outrageous current drop out percentage.
So, I think we can all agree that this parent didn't destroy common core at all.
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 05:06:03 PMSo, I think we can all agree that this parent didn't destroy common core at all.Nope. This parent completely destroyed it. Common core is making children dumber.