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You would be the one guy to defend Common core, wouldn't you?


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You would be the one guy to defend Common core, wouldn't you?
Seeing as how I'm probably the only person here with the experience to comment on it, yes.


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What exactly is the problem here?

Are you fuc­king allergic to numberlines?
number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.
Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.
Except we fucking are. They were present as far in school as my Advanced Functions class.


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What exactly is the problem here?

Are you fuc­king allergic to numberlines?
number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.
Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.
Except we fracking are. They were present as far in school as my Advanced Functions class.
In what context? What concepts are covered in Advanced Functions? That's not a course title I'm familiar with.


 
 
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
What exactly is the problem here?

Are you fuc­king allergic to numberlines?
number lines are a retarded, impractical method of learning subtraction for all the special snowflakes who ate glue back in kindergarten, it's never used in the real world and never should be used.
Well, obviously. But let's not pretend that number lines are anything new, nor are they used in anything above 3rd grade math. It's not like we're teaching kids algebra with number lines and shit.
Except we fracking are. They were present as far in school as my Advanced Functions class.
In what context? What concepts are covered in Advanced Functions? That's not a course title I'm familiar with.
It's the highest general math class in my school system. It's been a long time since I had the class, and I was never particularly good at mathematics. I can't tell you much about it because I just don't remember. That is a pretty bad sign for our current system, I think.

I'm not opposed to common core like, say, Kinder is, out of fear of a federal takeover of education or some other right-wing conspiracy theory. I just don't think it changes enough. American education is critically flawed and a lot needs to be changed. Instead of just raising our standards we should be looking at new ways to teach, that will make it easier for students to learn the material. The Montessori method is something that should really be looked at for ideas, and some European education systems as well.


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I find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about it

Well, CommonCore is a liberal policy. Why would a liberal source link to something that goes against the policies of politicians they support?
Just because it's supported by liberals [and a number of conservatives, mind you] doesn't mean it's some attack by liberals to try to inject the public school system with their positions.

I'd love to see what conservatives would propose we do to reform schools, but they haven't proposed fuc­k-all.
http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education. What works in one state, or city, will not work for another. Education needs to be built from the ground up based on the needs of students of each school. Teachers should also be teaching, not reciting from a xerox paper and passing the same paper to students, just with blanks. Teachers also should be more firm and strict with students, not this whole "you're still a winner even if you loose" because that's not what college or the real world is like. Parents also need to be a voice in education and the school adjust based on the input


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I find it interesting that it's pretty much only conservative sources talking about it

Well, CommonCore is a liberal policy. Why would a liberal source link to something that goes against the policies of politicians they support?
Just because it's supported by liberals [and a number of conservatives, mind you] doesn't mean it's some attack by liberals to try to inject the public school system with their positions.

I'd love to see what conservatives would propose we do to reform schools, but they haven't proposed fuc­k-all.
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you must have been educated under the common core


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http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Right, so they can get the Bible into education.


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Teachers should also be teaching, not reciting from a xerox paper and passing the same paper to students, just with blanks.
Well, that's not what teachers do, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Parents also need to be a voice in education and the school adjust based on the input
...and that's how we get biology teachers having to talk about how "evolution is one idea, but there are others"


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http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Right, so they can get the Bible into education.

What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."

http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Right, so they can get the Bible into education.
What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?
I was aware of this, but you referred specifically to the Republicans. And we all know what the Republican motivation is, here.


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Teachers should also be teaching, not reciting from a xerox paper and passing the same paper to students, just with blanks.
Well, that's not what teachers do, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
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Parents also need to be a voice in education and the school adjust based on the input
...and that's how we get biology teachers having to talk about how "evolution is one idea, but there are others"
Except it is what they do. I have a brother in middle school and I graduated high school two ears ago. It's the practice being used

Don't see the problem; education is the process of acquiring knowledge, esp systematically during childhood and adolescence. telling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept. I'd be open to a section discussing atheism in a religious studies class because it's related to it, just as how creationism is related to a idea of how life began


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http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Right, so they can get the Bible into education.
What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?
I was aware of this, but you referred specifically to the Republicans. And we all know what the Republican motivation is, here.
Because Max asked for the Republican's idea of education? He didn't ask for the Libertarian's


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telling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.
Education is a one-sided concept because there is only one side - facts.

We don't teach numerology, astrology, or phrenology for a reason.
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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Anyway, Kinder, I'd like to know what your issue is with Common Core, other than it being liberal-backed (which should have no bearing on it's validity).

I'm assuming you know that it does not impose a specific curriculum or set any kind of limit for education, only a set of minimum standards.


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."

http://www.republicanviews.org/republican-views-on-education/
http://www.scpie.org/alternatives/

Republican views on education are simple: Get feds out of education.
Right, so they can get the Bible into education.
What if I told you getting the fed out is the same view expressed by Libertarians?
I was aware of this, but you referred specifically to the Republicans. And we all know what the Republican motivation is, here.
Because Max asked for the Republican's idea of education? He didn't ask for the Libertarian's
And you didn't give it. So I don't understand how it is relevant to my criticism of the Republicans, who have a different motivation. It should also be noted that quite a few of America's libertarians are libertarian in name only, they just don't like being associated with Republicans, even if they hold all the same stances and values.


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As a Brit who was never great at math: Numberlines fucked me up in my early schooling. They took to long to calculate equations with once you got out of baby problems and it wasn't until year 9 or 10 I was taught a different method of solving addition and subtraction. My maths teacher will always have my thanks for fixing what my other maths teachers broke.


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telling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.
Education is a one-sided concept because there is only one side - facts.

We don't teach numerology, astrology, or phrenology for a reason.
A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon. So you're partially correct when science teaches facts, but science is the general consensus on a subject and can possibly be disproved with more research in the future

Saying that teaching creationism will make people dumber is kinda redundant. Brazil forbids the teaching of evolution but still ranks lower than American science courses. On the other hand you have Germany which discusses creationism and it's education is ranked far higher than America's


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telling about creationism gives another view and refrains from making education a one-sided concept.
Education is a one-sided concept because there is only one side - facts.

We don't teach numerology, astrology, or phrenology for a reason.
A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon. So you're partially correct when science teaches facts, but science is the general consensus on a subject and can possibly be disproved with more research in the future
But Creationism is not science. Period.

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Saying that teaching creationism will make people dumber is kinda redundant. Brazil forbids the teaching of evolution but still ranks lower than American science courses. On the other hand you have Germany which discusses creationism and it's education is ranked far higher than America's
Correlation/causation.


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Anyway, Kinder, I'd like to know what your issue is with Common Core, other than it being liberal-backed (which should have no bearing on it's validity).

I'm assuming you know that it does not impose a specific curriculum or set any kind of limit for education, only a set of minimum standards.
I despise Common Core because it's forcing all schools to adjust education to meet a dumb-down national standard that will benefit weaker, inner city schools. It's easier to downgrade the education of a more prestigious school because it's just less work for students but upgrading education in a crap school will result in more students dropping out on top of the outrageous current drop out percentage.



 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
creationism gives another view
Not in my biology class, thanks.


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So, I think we can all agree that this parent didn't destroy common core at all.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it.
What the Jesus H. Fuc­k are you talking about?


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
but science is the general consensus
No it's fucking not. Science is based on what is found using the Scientific method, not what the most people agree on.

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Saying that teaching creationism will make people dumber is kinda redundant.
Here's the thing. Most Americans are fucking dumb. The pseudoscience behind all current arguments for creationism is also dumb. It is very dangerous to teach dumb things to dumb people.
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On the other hand you have Germany which discusses creationism and it's education is ranked far higher than America's
65% of Germans identify as "evolutionists", compared to 28% of polled Americans, so clearly they're doing better than we are.

http://ncse.com/news/2011/04/polling-creationism-evolution-around-world-006634


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"I've been battling with the struggle of love and anger and the anger has won. It's impossible for me to go back to the way I was. I've tried changing back but it didn't work. I still had it in me and doubt it will ever go away. I have no control over it anymore. It has become part of me."
Anyway, Kinder, I'd like to know what your issue is with Common Core, other than it being liberal-backed (which should have no bearing on it's validity).

I'm assuming you know that it does not impose a specific curriculum or set any kind of limit for education, only a set of minimum standards.
I despise Common Core because it's forcing all schools to adjust education to meet a dumb-down national standard that will benefit weaker, inner city schools. It's easier to downgrade the education of a more prestigious school because it's just less work for students but upgrading education in a crap school will result in more students dropping out on top of the outrageous current drop out percentage.
What are you even trying to say

First you claim that it will only benefit lower-quality inner city schools, then you claim they will be hit worse.

Make up your mind nigga


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So, I think we can all agree that this parent didn't destroy common core at all.

Nope. This parent completely destroyed it.

Common core is making children dumber.


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So, I think we can all agree that this parent didn't destroy common core at all.

Nope. This parent completely destroyed it.

Common core is making children dumber.
Did you even read the problem? Jack got the wrong answer. The correct answer is 111. The problem is to explain why he is wrong.