"Emotional damages"?Kill yourselves you fucking faggots. Go to a different bakery. How fucking spiteful can you be to destroy someone's business because they don't want to bake you a cake?
They're not being discriminated against.
I'm mostly curious what kind of cake this was. I've been to a shit-ton of weddings, and none of them have ever had pictures or writing on the cake. They're almost always plain, sometimes with flowers or other shit on them.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.It's a cake. They're not being lynched.
Quote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on July 09, 2015, 06:18:06 AMITT: Max engages in argument from authority despite that he was blubbering over the fact gay marriage was illegal a few months ago.Well unless the details of the ruling are publicly available, which it doesn't seem since OP hasn't linked it, all we can do is speculate as to why the number is what it is, which is ultimately pointless. That's why i'm saying the judge must have had his reasons.I don't see how that's in conflict with my distaste for same sex marriage being illegal.
ITT: Max engages in argument from authority despite that he was blubbering over the fact gay marriage was illegal a few months ago.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:51:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:48:21 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.It's a cake. They're not being lynched.The severity of the discrimination doesn't make it not discrimination.It's a luxury. They weren't denied food. They were denied a cake. Where's the emotional damage for kids that have never eaten a cake in their life?Fuck all these sexual degenerates and their pretend discrimination. Racist and classist motherfuckers.
Quote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:48:21 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.It's a cake. They're not being lynched.The severity of the discrimination doesn't make it not discrimination.
Let me guess - "gays are executed in the middle east, so gays in the US should shut the fuck up"?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.And shutting down a business by forcing them to pay through the nose because they acted in accordance with a non-aggressive value isn't discriminatory?
All I can side with is that the couple was within their legal right to sue the bakery for discrimination.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:04:10 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:53:48 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:51:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:48:21 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.It's a cake. They're not being lynched.The severity of the discrimination doesn't make it not discrimination.It's a luxury. They weren't denied food. They were denied a cake. Where's the emotional damage for kids that have never eaten a cake in their life?Fuck all these sexual degenerates and their pretend discrimination. Racist and classist motherfuckers.Let me guess - "gays are executed in the middle east, so gays in the US should shut the fuck up"?Pretty much. They can get married, they have equal rights. Their "oppression" is over.
Quote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:53:48 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:51:59 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:48:21 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 12:47:36 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 09, 2015, 12:46:03 PMThey're not being discriminated against. Being denied a service because of a personal characteristic is literally the definition of discrimination.It's a cake. They're not being lynched.The severity of the discrimination doesn't make it not discrimination.It's a luxury. They weren't denied food. They were denied a cake. Where's the emotional damage for kids that have never eaten a cake in their life?Fuck all these sexual degenerates and their pretend discrimination. Racist and classist motherfuckers.Let me guess - "gays are executed in the middle east, so gays in the US should shut the fuck up"?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:06:30 PMAll I can side with is that the couple was within their legal right to sue the bakery for discrimination.Obviously, but we're quite clearly debating the merits of the law here.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:04:10 PMLet me guess - "gays are executed in the middle east, so gays in the US should shut the fuck up"?They should shut the fuck about not being baked a cake, yeah. It really would be no different to refusing to bake a cake for a paedophile conference, and I'm sure nobody would take issue with that.
Over? Nah. There's still plenty left.
Well pedophiles aren't a protected class in Oregon or any other US state, so it's not really the same.
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:08:02 PMOver? Nah. There's still plenty left. After briefly glancing over that list, the only two that really seem "oppressive" are the right to fire somebody on the grounds of their sexuality (and that's a fucking stretch) and gay conversion therapy.
But meta it's perfectly OK to force people to be complicit in a ceremony they don't agree with.Why can't you understand this?
Quote from: memecube han on July 09, 2015, 01:16:38 PMBut meta it's perfectly OK to force people to be complicit in a ceremony they don't agree with.Why can't you understand this?What the fuck's there to disagree with? It's a wedding. They make plenty of other wedding cakes.
What the fuck's there to disagree with?
Quote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:09:24 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on July 09, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:06:30 PMAll I can side with is that the couple was within their legal right to sue the bakery for discrimination.Obviously, but we're quite clearly debating the merits of the law here.And I think anti-discrimination laws that protect LGBTs are both necessary and right.1. Pretty sure you'll be sued to death of you fire somebody for being gay. Haven't heard of people being fired for being gay. Obviously the official reasons won't be listed as "fired for being gay", but people know when it happens and would raise hell about it. 2. LOL3. And Jews still face discrimination because Neo Nazis are protected by police when they fly their nazi flag. Fuck off. 4. Landlords can rent to whoever hey want to. You'll find black people still have a tough time renting in majority white areas. While this is wrong, it isn't institutionalized discrimination. 5. That isn't institutionalized discrimination. 6. Of course. Provide support for the middle class and rich gay kids but arrest and shoot kids in the ghetto. 7. They should be restricted. 8. I don't see how jury duty is so appealing or how they can really tell if somebody's gay, but ok. 9. Transgenders are mentally unstable and shouldn't serve in the military. 10. That's a problem with parents not accepting their kids. It isn't oppression. 11. Adoption is really fucked up for everybody no matter how you look at it. But yes, it's ducked up how gay couples are discarded. 12. Happens to everybody. 13. Happens more to ethnic and religious minorities than gays and trannies. 14. I don't even know what to say to this shit. These people are going to be messed with in any gender prison. 15. Happens to everybody. 16. You can't pass a law to stop people from disliking and rejecting homosexuality and transgenderism. Gays and such are hardly oppressed.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 09, 2015, 01:07:41 PMQuote from: Mad Max on July 09, 2015, 01:06:30 PMAll I can side with is that the couple was within their legal right to sue the bakery for discrimination.Obviously, but we're quite clearly debating the merits of the law here.And I think anti-discrimination laws that protect LGBTs are both necessary and right.
Oregon bakery owners fined $135,000 for refusing to serve gay couple
