Quote from: Camnator on April 20, 2015, 01:25:03 AMThey shouldn't be legal just for medical treatment, they should be legal in general. No government has an ethical right to dictate what people can and can't do to their own body.
They shouldn't be legal just for medical treatment, they should be legal in general. No government has an ethical right to dictate what people can and can't do to their own body.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on April 20, 2015, 05:13:09 PMAs I said the other day >.>Recreational use I don't think I can condone, but that's hardly something exclusive to DMT. Not condoning =/= Condemning before I get the muh freedoms crowd trying to crawl down my oesophagus.In proper clinical trials if it's shown to be safe enough for use and has demonstrable benefits then there is no reason to not allow medical usage of said drug.You would have to be careful though, same with the overeager charge to legalise cannabis everywhere when they are overlooking/ignoring/denying the whole schizophrenia inducing effect it can have on vulnerable individuals.**To head this off beforehand, I'm going to take the word of a clinical textbook and longitudinal studies over d4nkw33dnm3m3s.blogspot's ranting. People who aren't vulnerable to schizophrenia aren't going to develop it from 420blazingit but people who are significantly increase their chances of developing positive symptoms by overstimulating the dopamine centres in the brain >.>So why don't you support the recreational use of psychoactives? In my personal experience and the experiences of a lot of people it's nearly impossible to get addicted to them.
As I said the other day >.>Recreational use I don't think I can condone, but that's hardly something exclusive to DMT. Not condoning =/= Condemning before I get the muh freedoms crowd trying to crawl down my oesophagus.In proper clinical trials if it's shown to be safe enough for use and has demonstrable benefits then there is no reason to not allow medical usage of said drug.You would have to be careful though, same with the overeager charge to legalise cannabis everywhere when they are overlooking/ignoring/denying the whole schizophrenia inducing effect it can have on vulnerable individuals.**To head this off beforehand, I'm going to take the word of a clinical textbook and longitudinal studies over d4nkw33dnm3m3s.blogspot's ranting. People who aren't vulnerable to schizophrenia aren't going to develop it from 420blazingit but people who are significantly increase their chances of developing positive symptoms by overstimulating the dopamine centres in the brain >.>
Quote from: challengerX on April 20, 2015, 04:31:59 AMQuote from: Camnator on April 20, 2015, 01:25:03 AMThey shouldn't be legal just for medical treatment, they should be legal in general. No government has an ethical right to dictate what people can and can't do to their own body.Agreed. Though, I only recommend the use of cannabis and alcohol in moderation.
This being the use of substances like DMT, psilocybin, LSD, etc. for treatments of conditions such as PTSD and other psychological issues. I'm pretty much just going to talk about DMT mainly but shrooms is used a lot to treat PTSD and you can read up on that if you want but still feel welcome to voice your opinion on that as well as in relation to DMT.A little background on DMT which is the more unknown substance is that it is a chemical found abundant in nature in various plants and animals. It is even found in human beings though it is only produced two times in life; birth and death/near death experiences. People that have consumed DMT describe meeting God, alien encounters, etc. So when you hear about someone having a near death experience and describing seeing heaven, meeting God, other religious experiences they are actually just experiencing their body's natural DMT high. The first bit on DMT's possible medical use I'd like to show is a little documentary by VICE in which a doctor in Mexico was experimenting with a form of DMT made by a toad in the region.YouTubeHe used a group of natives in the area that had been already using the drug for spiritual and ritualistic purposes of hundreds of years. Within this community he found people that had been suffering from severe drug addictions to meth and crack and one or a few uses of DMT and these people were cured of their addiction. So do you agree with DMT's use clinically based on these preliminary trials?
Quote from: S\ash on April 20, 2015, 01:08:11 AMThis being the use of substances like DMT, psilocybin, LSD, etc. for treatments of conditions such as PTSD and other psychological issues. I'm pretty much just going to talk about DMT mainly but shrooms is used a lot to treat PTSD and you can read up on that if you want but still feel welcome to voice your opinion on that as well as in relation to DMT.A little background on DMT which is the more unknown substance is that it is a chemical found abundant in nature in various plants and animals. It is even found in human beings though it is only produced two times in life; birth and death/near death experiences. People that have consumed DMT describe meeting God, alien encounters, etc. So when you hear about someone having a near death experience and describing seeing heaven, meeting God, other religious experiences they are actually just experiencing their body's natural DMT high. The first bit on DMT's possible medical use I'd like to show is a little documentary by VICE in which a doctor in Mexico was experimenting with a form of DMT made by a toad in the region.YouTubeHe used a group of natives in the area that had been already using the drug for spiritual and ritualistic purposes of hundreds of years. Within this community he found people that had been suffering from severe drug addictions to meth and crack and one or a few uses of DMT and these people were cured of their addiction. So do you agree with DMT's use clinically based on these preliminary trials?Didn't we already have a thread about this last week? Anywho.Yes we should use it but be careful because it can cause serotonin syndrome which basically means your brain stops producing serotonin and you end up like this: Aka more likely to shit yourself. Oh and have no controllable emotions... Just sayin.
Opinions on the use of psychoactive substances as treatments
